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[I. CALL TO ORDER]
SEVEN 30.I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER.
WELCOME TO DECEMBER 11TH, 2025, REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
[II. MINUTES]
CONSIDER IS THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.DOES ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING? SEE YOU.
NO ONE I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION.
MS. RODRIGUEZ, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS ON NOVEMBER 13TH.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
OH, AND THE MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ONE.
[III.A.1. PZ-2026-01 - A request to rezone approximately 80 acres of land, situated in the Thomas G. Zachary Survey, Abstract No. 1759, from “C-PD” Multiple-Family Planned Development District to “C-PD” Multiple-Family Planned Development District (18.6 acres) and “B” One-Family District (61.3 acres). The property is generally located on the east side of I.H. 820 between Veterans Pkwy and Chapin Rd (4501 W Loop 820 S).]
A PUBLIC HEARING.BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE OKAY.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION, FOLLOWED BY A PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF.
THE COMMISSIONERS MAY THEN ASK QUESTIONS DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS, I WILL THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ON THE ITEM.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST, THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE OPPOSED.
WHEN INVITED TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TO THREE MINUTES.
ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES RAISED.
THIS HELPS ENSURE ALL AUDIENCE MEMBERS HAVE A FAIR AND UNINTERRUPTED OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR INPUT.
ONCE ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.
AFTER THAT POINT, NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS NOT A TOWN HALL FORMAT.
THERE WILL BE NO BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE AUDIENCE AND THE APPLICANT OR THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.
AFTER THE HEARING IS CLOSED, THE APPLICANT MAY THEN RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN RAISED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE COMMISSION WILL THEN DELIBERATE MAY ASK FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT AND CONSIDER A MOTION AND VOTE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
TO MAINTAIN RESPECTFUL AND ORDERLY MEETING.
WILL THE APPLICANT FOR PZ 2 0 2 6 0 1? PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
WELL, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M PRESIDENT OF EVOLVING TEXAS, UH, REPRESENTING, UM, MY CLIENT ON THIS ZONING REQUEST.
UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE APPLICATION AND, UM, I'LL JUST HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO GO OVER THE FACTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE APPLICATION AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING COMMENT AND FEEDBACK.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE A PORTION OF, OF PROPERTY OFF OF EIGHT 20, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED CP DASH D.
UM, IT'S IN TWO SECTIONS SHOWN HERE.
UM, THE LOWER SECTION OF THE BROWN SECTION IS KNOWN AS TRACT ONE.
UM, THAT IS A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PORTION.
AND THEN THE UPPER PORTION IN YELLOW IS, UH, IT'S A LOW DENSITY, UH, REQUEST AT THIS TIME FOR STRAIGHT ZONING IS INTO B.
UM, WE'LL BE TALKING A LOT MORE ABOUT ABOUT THAT SECOND TRACK HERE.
AND THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE OBJECTIVE OF OUR, OUR REQUEST IS TO, IS SEVERAL, SEVERAL ITEMS. UM, OUR REQUEST THAT ALIGNS EXACTLY WITH THE CITY'S VISION, UH, PRINCIPLE 3.4 AND 3.5 OF THE COMP PLAN, UM, REQUIRE, UM, SIMILAR DENSITIES AND SIMILAR USES, UH, AS, AS TWO CORE PRINCIPLES.
AND THOSE ARE PRINCIPLES 3.4 AND 3.5.
IT ALSO UPDATES THE ZONING TO MATCH THE 2020 COMP PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT, UH, SOME DISCREPANCIES THAT, THAT WE'VE SEE THERE.
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AND THIS REQUEST WILL ACTUALLY STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT.IT SUPPORTS THE UNIFORM ZONING STANDARDS, UH, ALONG THE SAME LINES OF WHAT I JUST MENTIONED.
UH, BRINGS THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TWO 11.04 THAT STATES THAT ZONING MUST, MUST BE ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FLU IS SHORT FOR FUTURE LAND USE.
MAP IS PART OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL COMPARE THOSE TWO IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
UM, THEN IT CORRECTS ALSO AN OUTDATED CLASSIFICATION, UH, SPECIFICALLY ON THAT SECOND TRACT THERE.
UM, THE, THE PD CALLS FOR AN OPEN SPACE OR CON CONSERVATION TRACT.
BASICALLY A ZERO DENSITY, UH, ZONING FOR NOTHING AND NOT, THAT'S A LITTLE PECULIAR.
AND SO THIS, THIS REQUEST ALSO KIND OF STRAINS THAT OUT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, MOST OF YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS.
IT'S OFF OF EIGHT 20, UH, NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW.
UM, ADJACENT TO MARY'S CREEK AND SOME ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THIS AREA'S BEEN WIDE OPEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
SO IT, IT'S BEEN SITTING IN THIS CURRENT CONDITION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU'LL NOTICE IN, IN 42, WE DIDN'T HAVE STATE HIGHWAY EIGHT 20 JUST YET EITHER.
SO NOW WE GET TO, TO SOME COMPARISONS AND WHY THIS IS KIND OF THE BACKGROUND OR THE BACKBONE OF OUR REQUEST.
HERE ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT'S, AS YOU NOTICE, IT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR PROPOSED ZONING.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY'RE IDENTICAL.
THOSE AREAS, UH, MEETS AND BOUNDS OF THE BROWN, TWO BROWN TRACKS ARE THE SAME AND AS WELL AS THE, THE YELLOW TRACKS.
SO OUR ZONING REQUEST IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT THE FLUME IS, IS SETTING UP FOR ZONING.
AND ACCORDING TO, UM, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TWO 11.004 STATES THAT ZONING MUST BE ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT THE I, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE IDENTICAL IS NOT A COINCIDENCE IN OUR REQUEST.
ANOTHER COMPARISON HERE, UH, THE STARK CONTRAST OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH A COMP PLAN AS, UM, IN, IN COMPARISON TO THE EXISTING ZONING OF CPD.
UM, IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT A, UH, PD, UH, OFFERS US SOME FLEXIBILITY, UH, UH, ACCORDING TO A REQUEST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
BUT THE CPD IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT DICTATED IN, IN THE WAY THAT THE EFFECTUAL LAND USE MAP SHOWS FOR IT TO BE A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THAT TRACK TWO.
SO JUST TO RESTATE THAT, THE PROPOSED ZONING TAKES THE CPD, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE HDR PORTION, TRACT ONE AS IS, AND BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, WE WILL THEN DESCRIBE, UH, A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING B FOR 61.34 ACRES, AGAIN, BY MEETS AND BOUNDS OF COURSE.
AND THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH, UH, WITH, TO, WITH YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S IDENTICAL DENSITY.
SPEAKING AGAIN TO THE PRINCIPLES OF YOUR COMP PLAN.
UH, 3.4 AND 3.5 REQUIRING DENSITIES AND USES TO BE SIMILAR IN NATURE.
UH, JUST AROUND US HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, PECAN VALLEY AT 2.84 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, RUSS AT 2.6 AND RETA PLACE AT 2.25.
SO WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF, OF AN INCREMENT HERE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A 0.67 OF A HOUSE ANYWHERE, SO IT'S JUST A ROUNDING ERROR IF YOU WOULD.
I THINK I MIGHT SKIP THE SLIDE.
SO IN IN SUMMARY, THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN PRINCIPLES.
AGAIN, THAT'S 3.4 AND 3.5 IF YOU WANNA LOOK THOSE UP.
UH, THE PROJECT DESIGN MEETS MARKET DEMAND, AND THAT'S EVIDENCED BY, UH, QUALITY DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS THAT ARE WAITING FOR US TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY THEN PURCHASE A PROPERTY AND, AND,
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AND START A, A PROJECT.IT COMPLIES WITH STATE BENBROOK ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS AGAIN, UH, THAT AND THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2.1104 REQUIRES THAT ZONING MUST BE ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST DOES.
AND THEN FINALLY, CRICKS, WE'RE CALLING IT OBSOLETE ZONING, AND THAT'S THAT ZERO DENSITY ZONING, WHICH IS HIGHLY PECULIAR AND, AND, UH, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THAT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
SO IN SUMMARY, UH, THIS, THIS WAS THE SAME AS THE FIRST SLIDE.
UH, THE REQUEST TO REZONE AREA TWO, THE YELLOW FROM A ZERO DENSITY TO LDR, WHICH IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP REQUIRES.
UM, AND ALSO TRACT ONE WILL STAY, UM, IN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ALSO IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IS AS IS ALREADY IS ZONED CURRENTLY, IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, BUT I THINK YOU GIVE MY DRIFT THE, UH, THAT SECTION REMAIN AS IS.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANS ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW OR OKAY, I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW.
ANY MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. WALLACE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO, UH, SEVERAL SLIDES? I'D LIKE TO SEE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE, UH, FLOOD LINE ON THERE.
KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING BACK RIGHT THERE.
UM, THAT BLUE LINE, UH, WELL, THERE'S LOTS OF BLUE LINES.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DARK BLUE LINE? YEAH, THE, THE DARK BLUE LINE THAT GOES INTO FLOODWAY FLOODPLAIN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT REZONING IN THAT AREA, CORRECT.
NOT JUST THE YELLOW AREA THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE BROWN AND THE BLUE STRIPES.
I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE IN HERE THAT SHOWS THE MEETS AND BOUNDS.
I, I THINK WHAT THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, IT IS THE YELLOW AREA.
SO THE, THE WILL THE CREEK GET REZONED.
I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU, BUT IT MAKES SENSE TO, UH, TAKE IT TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
THE POPULAR BOUNDARY GOES TO THE THREAD OF THE CREEK SO WE COULD, IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT.
IT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY.
OH, SO ARE YOU, IS YOUR APPLICATION INCLUDE REZONING, THE AREA THAT IS STRIPED BLUE? I THINK SO.
I, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS ACCURATE? ARE YOU GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER WITH THE ZONING? YES.
UH, DO YOU HAVE THE CLICKER, UH, MR. WALLACE, UH, CORY WALDROP HERE ON THIS LINE SHOWS, UM, THIS IS THE ZONING REQUEST HERE.
UM, SO THE BLUE LINE ON THE NORTH, UH, SIDE OR THE, THE, THE TOP OF THE PAGE IS YEAH, THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY.
SO IT'S THE, THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY ON THE NORTH, UH, THE PROPOSED OR THE EXISTING MEETS AND BOUNDS ON THE WEST.
THE EAST AND THEN ALONG THE, THE BROWN.
CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE JUST TO MAKE SURE, UH, ONE AFTER THAT? OH, MAY HAVE TO BACK UP.
YEAH, YOU MAY HAVE TO BACK UP.
SO YEAH, I, I, I, I SEE THE CONFUSION THERE.
THE PROPOSED ZONING ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IF YOU COMBINED THE, THE STRIPED BLUE, WHICH IS SIGNIFIES YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
YEAH, THAT, THAT YELLOW AREA IS BIGGER THAN, THAN DEPICTED THERE, SO, OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE REQUEST.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. ELLISON? YEAH, THANKS.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU REFERENCED THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND YOU SAID, UM, THE ZONING MUST BE ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT IS SHOWN BY A COMP PLAN.
DID, DID YOU INCLUDE THAT REFERENCE ANYWHERE IN, IN YOUR, UM, PREPARED MATERIALS? I JUST COULDN'T FIND THAT.
I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THAT LANGUAGE SAID.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HA IF YOU INCLUDED IT.
IT'S TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TWO 11.004 PARENTHETIC A STATES THAT
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QUOTE, ZONING MUST BE ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YES.
SO I WOULD TAKE THAT, WELL, I'M, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT WITH THE, I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT, OF THAT SECTION OF STATE LAW IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BASIS BY WHICH YOU SHOULD REZONE.
AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT, PLAN, PLAN FOR IT, AND THEN TRY TO FOLLOW THAT COMP PLAN.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THERE BEING NONE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. HOWARD.
MAY WE PLEASE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
COMMISSIONERS IS IN A, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, JUST ALLOW ME TO REVIEW JUST A FEW ITEMS, UH, FROM MY STAFF REPORT.
UH, FIRST LET ME JUST, UM, TALK ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN SIDE OF THINGS.
SO PORTIONS OF THIS, UH, OF THE SUBJECT SITE, UH, THEY DO LIE WITHIN THE FEMA DESIGNATED FLOODPLAIN.
HOWEVER, THE PRESENCE OF THE FLOODPLAIN DOES NOT PREVENT THE PROPERTY FROM BEING ASSIGNED A ZONING DISTRICT.
ZONING IS ONE OF THE FIRST STEP TO A MULTI-LAYERED REGULATORY PROCESS THAT GRANTS CERTAIN LAND USE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
BUT A ZONING DISTRICT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT A PROJECT CAN PROCEED WITHOUT MEETING ALL THE APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS.
THERE ARE OTHER TECHNICAL AND REGULATORY, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REVIEWED AT LATER STAGES IN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THOSE ARE REVIEWED BY THE CITY AND OTHER APPLICABLE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, UH, SUCH AS FEMA.
UM, SO, UH, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER 'EM AFTER MY PRESENTATION.
BUT, UH, LET ME MOVE ON TO THE CURRENT ZONING.
UH, THE ADJACENT ZONING DISTRICTS TO THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE CPD THAT YOU SEE THERE, UH, INCLUDE A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AND A COMMUNITY FACILITY DISTRICT.
UM, IT ALSO BORDERS THE INTER, UH, THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY EIGHT 20, UH, WHICH ALSO SERVES AS THE BOUNDARY LIMIT TO THE CITY OF FORT WORTH BETWEEN BENBROOK AND THE CITY, CITY OF FORT WORTH.
UH, IF WE LOOK CLOSER AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING, AND THIS MAY BE FAMILIAR, I BELIEVE THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO A SLIDE YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE DO HAVE THE, AND I, I SAY BOTH PECAN AND PECAN, BUT TODAY, I WILL SAY PECAN VALLEY, A ZONING THE UN PLATTED.
WE'VE GOT SOME UN PLATTED LAND, UH, TO THE NORTH AS WELL, WHICH IS ALSO A ZONING, UH, THE RUSS LOW VALLEY SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS A ZONING.
THEN FURTHER ALSO TO THE EAST, A 35 ACRE TRACK IN THE LA AND TERRA PHASE TWO EDITION, UH, WHICH STILL HAS A PRELIMINARY, UH, PLAT THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR FIVE LOTS, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS EXISTS AS A SINGLE PLATTED LOT.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE RADA PLACE, UH, ADDITION AS B PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
I ALSO WANTED TO RUN THROUGH SOME PROPERTY HISTORY, INCLUDING SOME OF THE ZONING HISTORIES SO THAT EVERYBODY'S UP TO DATE.
UM, WE'VE IN, UH, JUNE OF 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE 1490, WHICH ESTABLISHED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT USING THE C MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT AS ITS BASE ZONING DISTRICT.
THE ORDINANCE LIMITED PRIMARY BUILDING TYPES TO TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ONLY.
IT RESTRICTED THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROPERTY LOCATED OUTSIDE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND WITHIN THE BOUNDARY AS DESIGNATED AS AREA ONE.
UH, AND THAT'S SHOWN ON THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, THAT BROWN AREA, AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 18.6 ACRES.
IT ALSO PRESERVED MORE THAN 60 ACRES OF LAND AS UNDEVELOPED OPEN SPACE IN AREA TWO, AND IT SET A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 12.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN THE, UH, IN AREA ONE.
THEN IN JUNE, 2024, ONE YEAR AFTER
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THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 1490 A DEED WAS RECORDED.TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP TO CHAPIN HOLDINGS OF THIS PROPERTY, CHAPIN HOLDINGS LLC IN SEPTEMBER, 2024.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THIS PARTICULAR ZONING REQUEST, WHICH SOUGHT TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO THREE REGULATORY AREAS.
WE HAD A D MULTIFAMILY AREA, UH, DESIGNATED THERE AS AREA ONE ABOUT 16 ACRES ATTACHED TO THAT WOULD BE SOME OPEN SPACE, UH, IN AREA TWO, WHICH WAS 36.9 ACRES.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAD A BR PD, UH, REQUEST, UH, ABOUT 26 AND A HALF ACRES THERE.
UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, THE APPLICANT THEN WITHDREW THE REZONING APPLICATION.
AND THEN BECAUSE OUR REGULATIONS REQUIRED A 12 YEAR WAITING PERIOD AFTER THAT WITHDRAWAL, OR A 12 MONTH, I APOLOGIZE, 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD AFTER THAT WITHDRAWAL, UH, IN NOVEMBER, 2024, UH, THE APPLICANT THEN, UH, CAME TO THE COMMISSION REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ACCEPT ANOTHER ZONING APPLICATION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THEN THAT REQUEST WAS, UH, DENIED BY THE COMMISSION.
THEN IN AUGUST, 2025, THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED WITH PREJUDICE A ZONING REQUEST INVOLVING TWO COMPONENTS, A REQUEST TO REZONE A PORTION OF THE SITE TO A D MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT, AND A REQUEST THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED A B ONE FAMILY REDUCED DISTRICT, UH, DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AREA TWO, AS I IDENTIFIED IN ORDINANCE 1490.
BECAUSE THIS DENIAL WAS ISSUED WITH PREJUDICE, THE CITY MAY NOT ACCEPT ANOTHER REZONING APPLICATION REQUESTING EITHER OF THOSE SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS, THE D OR THE BR FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS.
UH, THIS APPLICATION IS NOT BOUND BY ANY OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
UH, THEY ARE, THEY HAVE SELECTED DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS.
AND THAT BRINGS US TO TONIGHT'S REZONING, UH, CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU HEARD, WE HAVE THE CPD AND THE B, UH, JUST AS DESCRIBED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANS, UM, JUST TO SHOW HOW THE PROPERTY COULD DEVELOP, AGAIN, NOT REGULATORY IF APPROVED.
UM, ON THE SCREEN IS, IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE HIGH DENSITY AREA THAT, UH, CPD AREA.
UM, AND THAT, AS YOU SEE IS, UH, WHERE AREA ONE APPROXIMATELY IS, UH, ON THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT AREA TWO ON THAT PICTURE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS AREA IS APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE B ONE FAMILY DISTRICT IS OF THAT 61 ACRES, UH, WHERE THEY ARE REQUESTING THE B ONE FAMILY DISTRICT, THE SUBMITTED CONCEPT CONCEPT PLAN SHARE SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS.
UH, WITH THE PRIOR REQUESTS, THOUGH, CHANGES IN LOT DIMENSIONS AND LAYOUTS, UM, ARE OBVIOUSLY REFLECTED, UH, COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS REQUESTED BR, THE PROPOSED B DISTRICT DOES PROVIDE LARGER LOTS AND WIDER BU BUILDING SITES.
UM, THE B DISTRICT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 70 FEET, UH, IN WIDTH WHEN COMPARED TO THE 60 FEET FOR THE BR DISTRICT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS LOT SIZE, THE B DISTRICT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 8,400 SQUARE FEET FOR AN INTERIOR LOT AS COMPARED TO THE 7,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE BR ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THEN THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
SO WHERE THE B HAD A 15 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK, THAT IS INCREASED, UH, TO 20 FEET IN THE B DISTRICT, UM, WHEN WE'RE VIEWING CITY POLICY AND GUIDELINES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, RECENT COUNCIL ACTION AND POLICY DIRECTION DOES CARRY A A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH STAFF, UH, AS THEY REPRESENT THE MOST CURRENT EXPRESSION OF HOW THE CITY EXPECTS LAND TO DEVELOP.
STAFF ALSO CONSIDERS COMPREHENSIVE FLAN, UH, WITH FUN, WHICH FUNCTIONS AS A BROAD LONG RANGE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT, WHICH CAN BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND INFLUENTIAL, BUT IT IS NOT REGULATORY.
UM, WHILE THE PLAN PROVIDES GENERAL DIRECTION ON LAND USE PATTERNS AND APPROPRIATE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, IT DOES NOT MANDATE SPECIFIC OUTCOMES.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, UH, FOR US, WHEN WE ARE REVIEWING
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THIS, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE FRAMEWORK UNDER 1490, UM, THE PRESERVATION AREA AREA TWO WAS NOT IMPOSED BY THE CITY.IT WAS PROPOSED BY THE PRIOR APPLICANT UNDER A PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER, UM, AS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT THAT CLUSTERED THE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THAT AREA.
ONE, UH, WHILE LEAVING MORE THAN 60 ACRES OF LAND IN THE, UH, AS UNDEVELOPED OPEN SPACE IN AREA TWO AS PRIVATELY RETAINED OPEN SPACE.
THIS VOLUNTARY PRESERVATION DIRECTLY ADVANCED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PRINCIPLE 3.32, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE PRIVATE RETENTION OF STEEP SLOPES, NATURAL VEGETATION, DRAINAGE WAVES, AND OTHER SENSITIVE AREAS TO INC TO REDUCE THE EROSION, UH, AND FLOOD RISKS, AND PROTECT NATURAL FEATURES TO REINFORCE AND ENCOURAGE THE PRIVATE RETENTION OF AREA TWO.
THE CITY ALSO AGREED TO THE REQUESTED RELIEF FOR SOME OF THE, FROM SOME OF ITS TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, UH, WITHIN AREA ONE.
SO THIS HISTORY REFLECTS, UH, REALLY THE POLICY BALANCE, UH, THAT CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTED IN 2023 AND REAFFIRMED THROUGH ITS 2025 DECISION TOGETHER.
THESE ACTIONS DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ZONING ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 1490 IS APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY AND REFLECTS THE CITY'S EXPECTATION FOR HOW THE SITE SHOULD DEVELOP A LIMITED CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT IN AREA ONE AND A LONG TERM PRIVATE PRESERVATION OF AREA TWO, THE CITY COUNCIL'S.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, FORMAL ACTION ALL DURING THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD LAST AUGUST, ESSENTIALLY COMMUNICATED TO STAFF THE FOLLOWING POLICY EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY.
ONE, THE TIMING FOR HIS OWN CHANGE WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE COUNCIL DID NOT WISH TO ABANDON THE RECENTLY APPROVED PD AS JUST OVER TWO YEARS HAD PASSED, UH, SINCE THEY HAD PASSED ORDINANCE 1490.
THE COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE EXISTING PD REFLECTS THEIR DESIRE TO PROTECT AREA TWO FROM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ADVANCES THAT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PRINCIPLE 3.32 THAT I DISCUSSED.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WAS SATISFIED WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IN PLACE, WHICH IS THAT CPD.
WHILE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES VALUABLE LONG RANGE GUIDANCE, ITS ROLE IN IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM A ZONING REGULATION AND ADOPTED ZONING STANDARDS.
THE PLAN GENERALLY HELPS INFORM DECISIONS ABOUT APPROPRIATE LAND USE DECISIONS WHERE ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT YET ESTABLISHED.
ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WE HAVE IT.
HOWEVER, ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS A ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY, WELL, IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING REGULATORY STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT, THAT ZONING DECISION CAN RESET THE LAND USE POLICY FOR THAT AREA IN ADOPTING ORDINANCE 1490 AND LATER REAFFIRMING IT THROUGH THE 2025 DECISION.
THE COUNCIL EFFECTIVELY APPROVED A LAND USE POLICY DIRECTION FOR HOW THIS PROPERTY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND STAFF VIEWS THE CURRENT PD FRAMEWORK AS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LONG TERM GOAL FOR THE AREA AND REPRESENTS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SITE.
ALTHOUGH OTHER ZONING CONFIGURATIONS MIGHT ALSO ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT BEST IMPLEMENTS THE CITY'S VISION IS ALWAYS DECIDED THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY AS THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT REFLECTS BOTH THE COUNCIL'S MOST RECENT POLICY DIRECTION AND THE DEVELOPMENT EXPECTATIONS FOR THE AREA STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT A REZONING THAT EXPANDS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AREA TWO AS ESTABLISHED UNDER THE CURRENT PD THROUGH THEIR RECENT ACTION.
THE COUNCIL INDICATED THE EXISTING ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LONG RANGE GOAL UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS A POLICY SHIFT, UM, OR APPROVES, UH, A DIFFERENT VISION FOR THE AREA STAFF FINDS NO BASIS TO SUPPORT THE REZONING REQUEST CHANGE AND RECOMMENDS MAINTAINING THE CURRENT DESIGNATION.
UH, AND WITH THAT, OUR RECOMMENDED MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE REZONING REQUEST.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HOWARD? MR. ELLISON? THANKS.
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FOR THAT, UM, PRESENTATION.SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, AREA TWO TODAY.
OBVIOUSLY THE CITY CAN'T COMPEL PRIVATE PRESERVATION, RIGHT? BUT, UM, IS THAT AREA ACTUALLY PRESERVED TODAY? LIKE WERE THE LEGAL STEPS TAKEN TO FROM THE OWNER AT THE TIME TO, IS IT PRESERVED OR DO YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT TODAY? I, I, I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THE, THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT DURING THAT TIME HAD INTENDED TO, UM, RECORD OR, OR PROCESS SOME FORM OF, UH, PRESERVATION CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
UM, NO, THE, THE, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
THE ONLY PROTECTION THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS RIGHT NOW UNDER LEGAL REGULATIONS WOULD BE THE ZONING, THE, SO THE, THE ZONING, UH, DOES NOT PERMIT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
MR. HARLE, UM, IS THERE SOME KIND OF CONFLICTING THINGS BETWEEN THE TEXAS ORDINANCE, UH, 2 1 1 0.004 A, THAT THEY WERE MENTIONING THAT ZONING HAS TO FOLLOW A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S ADOPTIVE ORDINANCE OF 1490? THERE'S, THERE'S NO ISSUES THAT STAFF SEES IN IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH STATE STATUTE.
OUR ZONING REGULATIONS DO COMPLY WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
IN GENERAL, UH, DECISIONS ARE MADE BY LOOKING AT THAT.
AS I STATED, THERE ARE, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT ITERATIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED COMPLIANT WITH A, WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ELEMENTS.
THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, PRINCIPLES, UM, WHETHER YOU CAN ALIGN A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH EVERYTHING IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHO KNOWS? UH, WE DIDN'T DO THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS, UH, BUT WHAT WE DID LOOK AT IS DOES IT GENERALLY COMPLY? AND THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, UH, WHEN WE ADOPTED 1490, WERE DEEMED IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
MR. WALLACE, UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS.
MR. HOWARD, YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION THAT NOTHING PREVENTS, UM, PROPERTY OWNER FROM BUILDING, I BELIEVE YOU SAID, IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
IS THAT CORRECT? I SAID NOTHING PREVENTS A ZONING DISTRICT FROM BEING ASSIGNED IN A FLOODPLAIN.
WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT A FLOOD? WHAT ABOUT A FLOODWAY? NO, THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE, A, A BIG MISNOMER IS THAT ZONING INCLUDES, LIKE THAT FLOOD PLAIN IS A ZONING DISTRICT.
FLOODPLAIN IS A FEDERAL FEMA DESIGNATION, AND IT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A ZONING REGULATION.
AND WE HAVE OUR OWN TITLE, TITLE 15, UH, IN, I THINK IT'S 15.
IT'S EITHER 15 POINT 40 OR 42, UM, THAT REGULATES FLOODPLAIN.
BUT WHAT ABOUT A FLOODWAY, INCLUDING THE FLOODWAY? BOTH FLOODWAY IS PART OF THAT, IT HAS BOTH.
AND DO YOU, COULD YOU PULL UP THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS IT EXISTS? UH, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD THAT ON THEIR SLIDE.
CAN YOU SWITCH ME OVER TO THE, THIS ONE? YEAH.
SO THAT IS HOW IT EXISTS TODAY, UH, ADOPTED IN 2020 PRIOR TO, PRIOR TO THE 1490 DECISION.
AND AM I CORRECT THAT THE PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN FOR LDR, UH, WOULD INCLUDE BUILDING IN AREAS CURRENTLY IMPACTED BY THE FLOODWAY? UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN APPEARS, IN MY VIEW, TO POSSIBLY INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
I DON'T HAVE A MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IF I, IF I SEE THE TOP OF THIS GREEN LINE, UH, AS THEIR PROPERTY BOUNDARY, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE FLOODWAY AREAS.
BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT ISN'T THE, THE REQUEST ISN'T, I UNDERSTAND.
AN ADOPTION OF THAT REQUEST DOESN'T REQUIRE HIM TO BUILD THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS NOT REGULATORY IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY IF HE CAN FOLLOW ALL, ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT IT IS A CONCEPT AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THIS PROPERTY COULD DEVELOP EVEN
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WITH THE B ZONING DISTRICT.ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. HOWARD.
UM, ORDINANCE 1490 AND THE ASSOCIATED ZONING FOR THE, THE ORDINANCE 1490, THAT PARTICULAR PLAN KEPT PRETTY MUCH ALL BUILDING OUT OF THE FLOODWAY CORRECT.
OR FLOOD PLAN? THAT IS CORRECT.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, BUT BEFORE I DO, PLEASE LET ME REMIND EVERYONE.
YOU'LL BEGIN WITH THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED.
WHEN INVITED TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
ALL COMMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES RAISED.
ONCE ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.
AFTER THAT POINT, NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS NOT A TOWN HALL FORMAT.
AFTER THE HEARING IS CLOSED, THE APPLICANT MAY RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN RAISED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE COMMISSION WILL THEN DELIBERATE, ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND CONSIDER A MOTION TO VOTE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN HELPING US MAINTAIN A RESPECTFUL AND ORDERLY MEETING.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING GOING AROUND ABOUT THE DUTIES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT SHOULD BE A RUBBER STAMP ARM OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
NOR SHOULD IT BE WHEN A DEVELOPMENT OR AN APPLICATION COMES IN, THE P AND Z LOOKS AT THINGS, WE HAVE BOXES OF CHECK.
WE LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE LAW, WE LOOK AT CASE LAW, AND WE LOOK AT RECENT CITY COUNCIL DECISIONS.
ANYTHING ELSE IS, IS UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THAT.
NO ONE UP HERE WANTS ANYONE'S YARD OR HOUSE TO FLOOD, BUT WE'RE KIND OF HAMPERED IN WHAT WE CAN DO.
THIS, THIS COMMISSION CANNOT COME UP AND SAY, NO MORE DEVELOPMENT IN A, IN A FLOODPLAIN.
CITY WILL GET SUED AND THEY'LL LOSE.
CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THAT.
WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND WE'RE JUST TRYING OUR BEST.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE CHANGED.
UH, WILL THE FIRST APPLICANT, OR WILL, WILL THE FIRST, UM, AUDIENCE MEMBER COME TO THE, TO THE PODIUM IF THEY'RE IN FAVOR? SCENE? NONE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING OF THAT OR CHANGING THE ZONING.
NEXT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I LIVE AT 4 5 1 3 CHARLES COURT.
ME AND MY WIFE AND MY CHILDREN ARE ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY FROM MARY'S CREEK.
AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TWO 11.004, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, LET'S DIG INTO THAT.
UH, SECTION TWO STATES, SAFETY AND SECURITY FROM FIRE, PANIC, AND OTHER DANGERS.
FLOODING IS MOST DEFINITELY A DANGER, IRRESPONSIBLE BUILDING FROM A BUILDER WHO CAN'T PAY HIS BILLS AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER INDICTMENT ON FEDERAL CHARGES IS A DANGER.
SECTION THREE, PROMOTE HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE.
DOESN'T, DOESN'T PROMOTE HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE.
I'M ALL FOR GROWING THIS COMMUNITY AND GROWING IT RESPONSIBLY.
I DON'T ENVY YOU FOR THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
I DON'T AT ALL, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE MAKE THE RIGHT ONES AND REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR FAMILIES, AND THE VOTES.
THANK YOU GUYS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
ANYONE ELSE? HELLO, DEREK VARNELL, 86 0 4 ELMWOOD DRIVE.
UH, I LIVE IN MARY'S CREEK AND, UH, WE LOVE OUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THIS, THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST A, A HAIRLINE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT YOU VOTED ON, UH, NOT TOO MANY MONTHS AGO AND WAS UNANIMOUSLY REJECTED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL.UM, THERE'S NO NEED TO SEND THIS ONE TO HIM.
ANYONE ELSE? I'M NOT, OH, I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS SOUND IS GONNA WORK.
I LIVE AT 82 0 4 SADDLEBROOK DRIVE IN NORTH BENBROOK.
THAT'S IN, UM, I GUESS WE'RE AT THE FAR, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE BOTTOM OF WHERE MARY'S CREEK, UH, CROSSES AT 3 77.
AND, UM, I DID READ SECTION 1490 BEFORE COMING, AND IT STRONGLY PROHIBITS ANY DEVELOPMENT IN AREA TWO, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
UM, I DID READ THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION.
I BELIEVE THERE WERE 55 PAGES.
I DID READ ALL 55 PAGES, AND THERE WERE SOME WORDS THAT BOTHERED ME BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT INSULTED, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON, UH, SECTION 1490.
I FELT LIKE IT, UH, WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THE 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND QUITE FRANKLY, TO YOU MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THEY CALLED THE PLAN INCONSISTENT, INCORRECT, OUTDATED, OBSOLETE.
BUT YET ON, ON HIS SIDE, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA PUT FORTH BEST, BEST PRACTICES, WHAT HIS BEST PRACTICES, BUILDING IN A FLOODWAY OR A FLOODPLAIN IS BEST PRACTICES CAUSING DETRIMENT TO PEOPLE DOWNHILL OF YOU AND INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD OF FLOODING AND DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I ALSO LOOKED BRIEFLY AT THAT, UM, TEXAS LAW.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO 11.004, WHICH THE APPLICANT REFERENCED IN HIS APPLICATION.
AND HE SAID THAT THERE WERE, UM, EVOLVING CONDITIONS, THERE WERE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAD CHANGED.
SO WE NEED TO RE LOOK AGAIN AT THE REZONING OF AREA TWO.
WELL, WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
ANYONE ELSE? HELLO, NAME IS AMBER LEE MULLINS, 4 2 2 5 DAWN DRIVE.
UH, JUST LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO, UM, EVERYBODY HERE, UH, FOR THIS SITUATION AS WELL AS FUTURE, UM, REQUESTS, UH, SOMETHING FROM THE ARBOR DAY ORG, UH, FOUNDATION SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF URBAN HEAT ISLANDS.
NOT SURE IF ANYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF CITIES, THERE ARE A LOT OF NATURAL AREAS, TREES THAT HELP TO LOWER THE HEAT IN OUR AREA.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH BEHIND ALL OF THIS TO KIND OF GUIDE PEOPLE TO MAKING DECISIONS ON KEEPING NATURAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY THE TREES AS WE DEVELOP.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE ARBOR DAY ORG FOUNDATION, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN INTERACTIVE MAP WHERE YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THE HIGH HEAT LEVELS WITHIN OUR AREA AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO SORT OF REDUCE THAT AS WE GROW AS A COMMUNITY.
AND THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA WITH EVERYTHING COMING IN.
JUST SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S AWARE OF, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE THINGS.
UM, YOU CAN CURRENTLY SEE THAT THE VARIOUS CREEK AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW GREEN, UM, AREAS ON THIS MAP, UM, WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPED UP IN THE CAMP BUOY AREA, AND WHERE ALL OF THE HOUSES ARE DARK, DARK RED, NOTHING IS THERE TO HELP ALLEVIATE ANY OF THAT.
UM, WHERE THEY'VE JUST BUILT THE AMAZON, UM, AREA THAT WAS GREEN AS WELL.
SO I'M SURE IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN THE MAPS REGENERATE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THAT AREA HAS BECOME YELLOW OR RED.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ANYONE ELSE? HEY, Y'ALL DOING TODAY, TONIGHT, I GUESS, UH, JUSTIN MULLINS 4, 2, 2 5 DON DRIVE.
UM, I DO WANNA START OUT AND YOU WRITE MR. RAMSEY.
I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS GET THE RECOGNITION THAT YOU TRULY DESERVE.
UM, SO TRULY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME, KIND OF BEING ALMOST INCENSED THAT BUFFER AND EXACTLY, YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR THIS.
YOU DO THIS OUT OF WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT.
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AND I THINK THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.BUT I DO WANNA SAY IS SOME OF THESE ARE DEFINITELY COMMENTS OF WHY ARE WE HERE AGAIN? THE GENTLEMAN OVER HERE SAID, WE LITERALLY JUST MADE A LITTLE TEENY TINY LITTLE CHANGE JUST TO REOPEN IT AGAIN.
THIS IS THE PRETTY MUCH DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
IF WE'RE NOT THERE, WE'RE FLIRTING WITH HER.
REALLY CLOSE CITY CANCELED, LITERALLY JUST SAID NOT TOO LONG AGO.
NO, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WHY ARE WE GOING BACK ON SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DID IN 2023? IT WAS TO BE PRESERVED.
WHY AREN'T WE PRESERVING IT? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHY WE'RE COMING BACK TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU BOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU COULD HAVE BUILT, THAT'S WHAT YOU BOUGHT.
YOU'RE, YOU, YOU, YOU MADE TOO BAD.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
I'M, I'M STILL NOT IN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE OF YOU WAS UP THERE.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY DIFFERENCES.
THE ONLY THING THAT I NOTICE, AND THIS IS A PURE COMMENT OF THE, OH, YOU MUST DO IT.
YOU SHOULD DO THIS, YOU MUST DO THIS.
I'M SORRY, THAT'S STRONG ARMING.
AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY THROWING A FIT TO GET THEIR WAY.
AND THAT'S A PERSONAL COMMENT.
BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
I LIVE AT 9 0 0 8 RANCH BLUFF COURTS IN RIHANNA PLACE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THIS SHORT, UH, THROUGH THIS WHOLE, UH, I WAS AROUND WHEN THE, UH, 1490, UH, WAS PUT IN PLACE AND I RESPECT HOW EVERYBODY APPROACHED THAT ISSUE.
THEY WALKED AND LOOKED AT IT AND LOOKED AT HIS SITE AND, UH, UNDERSTOOD.
UH, AND IN THE, UH, DEVELOPERS PROGRAM, YOU SEE THE 1942 AND YOU SEE THE CURRENT.
TELL ME WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN THOSE TWO IN THE FLOODPLAIN? NOTHING.
OKAY, SO THAT KIND OF TELLS ME MOTHER NATURE KIND OF DUG SOMETHING OUT TO, TO PROTECT THAT AREA OR RUN THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND, UH, I SENSED THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH 1490.
THAT EVERYBODY LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID, GEEZ, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF SENSITIVE THINGS HERE.
IF WE MUS WITH THIS, THERE'S GOTTA BE PROOF, RIGHT? THAT WHATEVER'S, YOU CAN'T SAY IT, IT'S JUST ABSOLUTE OKAY.
YOU GOTTA GIVE REASONS WHY IT'S ABSOLUTE AND, UH, UH, UM, OBSOLETE.
AND, UH, UH, I SAW NOTHING THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANYBODY TRY TO SAY THAT IT'S OBSOLETE, BUT GIVE REAL THINGS THAT CAN BE RESPONDED TO.
UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S OBSOLETE.
SO THAT'S MY RESPONSE TO NO FROM INFORMATION, EXCEPT THE FACT THAT 1490 LOOKED AT ALL THIS STUFF AND TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY UNDER CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, I THOUGHT, UH, THE PLANS OF THE OTHER, THE PREVIOUS, UH, UM, WAS A LITTLE BIT IN THE VR.
HE, THEY WERE REALLY PACKED IN THE HOUSES, AND TO ME THAT DIDN'T FIT THE, THE, ANY OTHER AREAS.
THERE'S A BEE IN THE BEE AND STUFF, AND THAT ARE AROUND THERE WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL THAT WAS USED, ALL THE AREA AROUND IS REALLY VERY CLOSE TO THE A ZONING.
AND MY ARGUMENT LASTS MONTH INCLUDED THAT I THINK IT STILL SHOULD STAY TO THE A AND DECISIONS WERE MADE BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UH, I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO, UH, TRYING TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT SOME OR, UM, UH, BIG CHANGE IN WHAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE BY NEW THINGS.
AND SO I STILL THINK THAT JUST TWO CHANGES FROM BR TWO HOUSING, TWO, TWO LESS HOUSINGS AND THE NEW ONE THAT HE, HE'S, UH, PLANNING, UH, HOW CAN THAT BE? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT MEANS THAT HE'S TRYING TO REALLY STICK HARD WITH A ZONING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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I LIVE AT 86 0 4 MARY'S CREEK DRIVE.I HAVE A TRIBUTARY NEXT DOOR TO ME, ME RIGHT ON THE SIDE, AND THEN I HAVE MARY'S CREEK IN FRONT OF ME.
I AM TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE NO CHANGE.
PLUS WE'VE GOT AMAZON BUILDING UP THERE.
WE'VE GOT THE DIS OTHER DISTRIBUTIONS BUILDING UP THERE.
THEN WE'VE GOT THE HOUSING ALL NORTH, I MEAN WEST THAT ARE ALL NEW HOUSING THAT'S DOWN MARY'S CREEK.
THERE IS NOT GONNA BE ANY LAND TO SOAK THIS WATER IN.
IT'S GONNA GO DOWN MARY'S CREEK.
AND WHEN IT DOES, LIKE IN 82, WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, THERE, WE HAD 21 INCHES OF RAIN IN AUGUST THE YEAR I MOVED INTO THIS HOUSE, IT WAS, THERE WAS OH SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN IN ONE NIGHT.
THE WATER CAME OVER THE BRIDGE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME.
WE CAN'T DO ANYMORE WATER THERE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOTTA BE AN AREA FOR IT TO GO.
SO I VOTE AGAINST THIS AND I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO WHAT'S BEING BUILT.
ANYONE ELSE? HI, I AM SHELLY WARD.
I LIVE AT 39 0 4 SUNNYDALE DRIVE.
UM, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND, UM, AT THE TOP OF MY LIST IS THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE A DEVELOPER, I QUESTION WHETHER THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY.
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AS PART OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
BUT THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT PROCESS.
UM, I WANNA REITERATE WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HAD SAID.
UM, USING WORDS LIKE OBSOLETE AND PECULIAR IS PECULIAR.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S A REASON THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED.
UM, I FEEL LIKE TONIGHT WAS, THE LAST MEETING WAS A LOT OF THE PLANNING AND WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO TO FI FIX THE CREEK, AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR OUT 200 YEAR OLD TREES, PUT 'EM OFF SITE, FIX THE CREEK, MOVE THESE 200 YEAR OLD TREES BACK, A WHOLE BUNCH OF HANKY THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT THEY DIDN'T GO INTO THAT.
SO TONIGHT FELT MORE LIKE THEY WERE PLAYING, TRYING TO PLAY GOTCHA.
WITH LEGALESE AND HAVING TO FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND AS SOME OF Y'ALL'S QUESTIONS SHOWED, JUST ONE LITTLE TINY WORD COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON WHAT THEY WERE SPEAKING OF.
UM, SO I JUST FEEL LIKE TONIGHT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO PLAY GOTCHA.
HOPEFULLY THEY DO NOT SUCCEED IN THAT.
UM, ONE OF MY OTHER THOUGHTS IS THAT THE LAST MEETING THERE HAD, HE HAD BROUGHT AN ENGINEER WITH HIM FROM DALLAS THAT WAS STILL TRYING TO WORK OUT THE MARY'S CREEK PROBLEM, THE FLOODING PROBLEM.
AND THEY WERE RUNNING INTO ROADBLOCKS, BUT THEY WERE SURE THEY COULD DO IT.
SO, UM, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AT THAT MEETING, UM, HAS HE TALKED TO FORT WORTH? HAS HE TALKED TO FEMA? HAS HE TALKED TO CORPS OF ENGINEERS? HAS HE TALKED TO ANYBODY ELSE? BECAUSE FEMA, MARY'S CREEK GOES FROM FORT WORTH THROUGH BENBROOK, BACK TO FORT WORTH.
THIS AFFECTS A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE CREEK.
UM, SO THERE'S NO MENTION THAT ANY OF THAT HAS BEEN SOLVED OR HE'S PULLED ANY OF THOSE OTHER ENTITIES INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THIS JUMPING THE GUN.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR CITY, FOR THE CITY IF, UM, THIS IS APPROVED.
BUT SHOULD THERE BE BONDS REQUIRED? BECAUSE IF THIS TURNS INTO A BOONDOGGLE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE CREEK, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES DECREASE.
THEY MIGHT SEE DAMAGE TO THEIR HOUSE.
IF THINGS DO NOT, IF THINGS GET CHANGED WITH THE CREEK THAT CAUSES LONG-TERM PROBLEMS, THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE TAXPAYERS AND THE HOMEOWNERS ALONG THERE ARE GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT.
SO IS IT, IF YOU PASS THIS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CAVEAT WHERE THERE HAS TO BE BONDS THAT WOULD PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE TAXPAYERS OF BENBROOK? AND THAT'S IT.
I LIVE AT 48 12 WILLIAMS ROAD, UH, DOWN CREEK FROM THIS PROPERTY.
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PLANNING ON SAYING ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT, IT WAS SOMETHING SHE ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP.I, I'VE BEEN FINANCING REAL ESTATE FOR 30 YEARS.
I'VE DONE MORE OF THESE PROJECTS THAN I COULD EVER COUNT.
IT IS STANDARD FOR SOMEBODY TO GET A ZONING CHANGE ON SOMETHING BEFORE THEY EVEN CLOSE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON DEVELOPING IT, THAT IS NORMAL.
USUALLY WE REQUIRE IT WHEN WE COMMAND SOMETHING.
UM, IT'S NORMAL FOR A SELLER TO GIVE TIME.
I'M SELLING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I'M GOING UNDER CONTRACT NEXT WEEK, OR I'M GIVING 'EM SIX MONTHS TO GET ZONING.
UM, THAT'S STANDARD BASED ON THE TIMELINE.
I SAW THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED IN A REALLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
I'VE ONLY LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL THIS HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
THERE'S A REASON THAT PROPERTY WAS PRICED THE WAY IT WAS WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED, AND IT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE GONNA PAY.
AND FOR WHAT I'VE SEEN ON NUMBERS, I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME PRICE AS WHAT A LOT IS ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
THIS IS DESPERATE ACTS FROM ALL I CAN TELL.
AND I'M SORRY Y'ALL ARE BURDENED WITH THIS AGAIN.
I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 23 YEARS.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, ONE, ONE THING THAT IT CONCERNS ME IS THE, SOME OF THE TRIBUTARIES AROUND MARY'S CREEK ALREADY HAVE FLOODED OUT AS RECENT AS MOST RECENTLY AS JULY THE SIXTH.
THAT WAS THE DAY I WAS BRINGING MY HUSBAND HOME FROM REHAB.
AND WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T GET HIM HOME BECAUSE WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL SOME OF THE STREETS CLEARED OUT BEFORE WE COULD TRY TO GET HIM HOME.
UM, I KNOW THE CREEK RIGHT THERE BY WESTERN HILLS CHURCH OF CHRIST FLOODED OVER, AND IF WE HAVE MORE HOUSES BUILT, IT'S JUST GONNA INCREASE FLOODING EVERYWHERE AROUND THERE.
HOPEFULLY THIS MAY BE THE LAST ONE.
UM, WE'VE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT, MA'AM, ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MA'AM.
UM, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND YOU HEARD A LOT FROM, UM, THE CITY STAFF REPORT REFERRING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I DO WANNA JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW MORE, UH, BULLETS FROM THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
PRINCIPLE THREE 14, THE CITY SHOULD DENY THE REZONING OF PROPERTY SOLELY FOR THE INTENT OF INCREASING THE PROPERTY'S VALUE.
PRINCIPLE THREE 15, THE CITY SHOULD DISCOURAGE REZONING REQUEST THAT PRIMARILY BENEFIT AN INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT AND ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DON'T QUITE HAVE THE NUMBERS HERE TONIGHT THAT WE'VE HAD IN, IN THE MORE PAST RECENT MEETINGS.
UM, WE ARE SPEAKING LOUDLY THAT WE DO OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE.
UM, IT, IT DOESN'T DIFFER MUCH FROM THE OTHER ONES.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL AT A VERY RECENT MEETING SPOKE LOUDLY.
MR. HOWARD INCLUDED THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT TONIGHT.
WE HOPE YOU TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
IN ADDITION, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU AS MEMBERS OF THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE DO APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I MYSELF, HAVE VOLUNTEERED THROUGH THE YEARS AND I, I KNOW THAT IT'S YOUR VALUABLE TIME THAT YOU'RE GIVING UP AND WE APPRECIATE EVERY MINUTE THAT YOU GIVE US.
AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR JOB IS LIKE IN SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT I WILL COMMEND YOU BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS TEDIOUS.
UM, AND WE WANNA REMIND YOU THAT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU.
SO, SO I LOVE A LOT OF, I REALLY SUPPORT THE NORTH BERICK NEIGHBORS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN, SO SOON MAKES, DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND I DO WANNA POINT, ONE THING I DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT, AND ESPECIALLY THE FEEDBACK, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT MARYS CREEK AREA RIGHT IN THIS AREA IS SO VOLATILE.
THERE'S A MASSIVE STUDY GOING ON RIGHT NOW NORTH OF THERE BY MULTIPLE CITIES AND DISTRICTS AND ENTITIES TRYING TO DETERMINE THE FLOOD OF MARY'S C CREEK, SPECIFICALLY AT THIS AREA.
IT WAS ONLY TWO MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO, THAT THE TR TRINITY RIVER WATER AUTHORITY MET.
AND I THINK EVEN BENBROOK IS A PART OF THIS, BUT THAT AREA, AND IT CAME OUT AT THAT TIME, IF
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WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED THE RAIN, THAT MYSTIC GOT THE 2122 INCHES IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME THAT THAT AREA OF BENBROOK WOULD'VE BEEN WIPED OUT.NOW, THAT'S A RARE OCCASION, BUT THE POINT IS, NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS.
AND I, I, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THE BUILDER.
YOU KNOW, YOU BUY CHEAP LAND, YOU ROLL THE DICE.
THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE BURDEN OF THE CITIZENS OF BENBROOK.
NORTH BENBROOK SHOULD NOT PAY THAT PRICE.
AND I, AND I HAVE DEALT WITH FEMA NOW FOR MY OWN ISSUES.
I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH FEMA AND I, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY UNDERSTAND FEMA.
AND WHAT A LOANER DOESN'T INCLUDE IS DYNAMIC WATER FLOW.
AND ODDLY ENOUGH, WHAT THAT MEANS IS FLASH FLOODING.
I JUST MET WITH THE BHB ENGINEERING WHO APPROVED THIS OTHER FLOODPLAIN DISASTER.
IT, YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT FLOODING DOESN'T MEAN WATER RUNNING THROUGH THE RIVER AT A FAST RATE.
ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THE VOLUME OF WATER.
ONCE IT HAS RISEN AFTER THE FLOOD, THAT'S YOUR LMER.
AND THAT IS JUST RIDICULOUS BECAUSE NORTH BEWICK WON'T BE THERE, RIGHT? HOWEVER, THE WATER WILL SETTLE.
THAT'S WHERE YOU LOOK AT YOUR LMER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S AFTER THE WATER'S DONE.
THAT'S NOT MYSTIC WHEN IT TOOK ALL THE HOMES AWAY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT AFTER THE WATER COMES DOWN, AND IT TRULY IS A 15 HOUR WAITING PERIOD.
SO THEY SAY AFTER 15 HOURS, IT TAKES 15 HOURS FOR A RIVER TO RISE, TO BE FE BASE FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION.
WELL, WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU, THEY EXPECT ALL THE FLASH FLOODING TO BE GONE BY THEN THEY EXPECT IT TO EXIT ANOTHER PATHWAY.
WELL, THE ANSWER IS, I JUST RAISED THE QUESTION.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT RAISES RAINS ON DAYS TWO, GIVEN THE 15 HOURS THERE RIVERS AT BFE? AND THE ANSWER WAS, WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT IN AN ANALYSIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FROM FEMA.
SO YOU GOTTA CONSIDER THIS, THIS, THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
MARY'S CREEK IS 10 TIMES THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE DOWN HERE IN TRINITY ESTATES.
IT TRULY WILL WIPE OUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T, I HAVE A DAM THAT PROTECTS ME.
WALCH RANCH HAS ALREADY MODIFIED THAT RIVER.
IF YOU NEED TO GO TO WAL RANCH, GO OUT TO WAL RANCH AND SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN MARY'S CREEK, IT HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY.
PLEASE FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND PUT THIS TO BED ONCE AND FOR ALL.
ANYONE ELSE? HELLO, STEPHANIE REED LIVE AT 4 5 1 3 CHARLES COURT OVER ADJACENT TO MARY'S CREEK.
JUST WANNA SAY THAT COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE ZONING AREA FOR THE SAKE OF OUR LIVELIHOODS AND THE SAKE OF EVERYTHING THAT AS IT STANDS ALSO, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IN YOUR COMMENTARY, AFTER BOTH PRESENTATIONS, IT KEPT COMING UP THAT THE PLANS THAT WERE PRESENTED WERE, FORGOT THE EXACT WORDS, BUT THEY WERE EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE, WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE, WHAT COULD BE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO WHAT ELSE COULD BE BUILT THERE? IT COULD BE WAY WORSE THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED.
AND IN SOME MIRACULOUS UTOPIA WORLD, MAYBE IT COULD BE BETTER.
BUT WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN THE UTOPIA WORLD, IT COULD BE SO MUCH WORSE THAN WHAT'S PRESENTED.
BECAUSE HE CAN, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE PLAN.
AND YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT.
YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS PURCHASING CHEAP LAND ON THE CHEAP TO DO THIS.
AGAIN, BECAUSE HE HAS DONE THIS EXACT PROJECT IN OTHER LOCATIONS AS IN BUYING FLOOD PLAIN LAND, CONVINCING IT TO GET CHANGED, SCREWING OVER EVERYONE THAT HAS NOW MOVED INTO THE FLOODPLAIN ZONE.
YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED PLAN.
TAMARA HALLICK, 49, 20 JORDAN TRAIL.
WE WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY WE ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
ANYONE ELSE THERE? BEING NONE? I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
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DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO COME UP AND ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS? OKAY.I WAS, UM, WAS TAKING NOTES ON, ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS I WAS HEARING.
UH, AND I'M TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE 'EM NOW IN MY MIND, SO I DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO 20 DIFFERENT, UH, CONSTITUENTS HERE.
BUT IN, IN GENERAL, UM, I WANT, I WANT TO ANSWER LIKE A NOT, IT IS NOT AN OVERSIGHT IN ANYTHING, IT'S JUST, BUT UH, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ELEMENT ABOUT THE, UM, 1490 FLOOD PLAIN AND WHY THAT'S OPEN SPACE.
UM, ONE COULD ASK WHY LEAVE IT AS OPEN SPACE? WELL, IT'S, IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT DESIGNATE IT AS PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE.
AND THE, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL CITATION.
UM, BUT SINCE THE PROPERTY IS NOT DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY FACILITY ON THE FLUME, IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED, CANNOT BE DEVELOPED AS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
THEREFORE, IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SHOWS IT AS THE LDR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO YES, IT, IT WAS IN THAT 1490, IT WAS DESIGNATED TO BE A OPEN SPACE PRIVATE, BUT IT CAN NEVER BE CON DEVELOPED AS A, AS ONE OF THE, UM, EXCEPTIONS IN THAT OPEN SPACE, UH, AREA AS A COMMUNITY FACILITY.
SO JUST TO KIND OF CLOSE THE LOOP ON THAT THOUGHT OR THAT IDEA, UM, IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO LEAVE IT OPEN WITH NO VIABLE USE OR DESIGNATION.
UH, I'M PARAPHRASING HERE, BUT THE PLAN IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME.
THE REASON THAT IS, IS BECAUSE WE ARE FORCED INTO THAT AREA TOO.
THE, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FLU.
SO YES, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE, THE PLANS THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER ARE GONNA LOOK VERY SIMILAR.
THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THE, IS IN THE LOT DIMENSIONS, THE ACREAGE FOR EACH LOT, THE SETBACKS, UH, THAT, UH, DOUG STIPULATED AT THE, AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS PRESENTATION.
SO THERE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF THOSE HOMES AND THE FACILITIES THERE.
SO YES, I UNDERSTAND IT LOOKS REALLY SIMILAR, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE TO OPERATE IN AND WE CAN'T LEAVE THOSE BOUNDARIES.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO? UM, AND SO WE LOOK AT, WE LOOK AT DENSITY AS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
SO WE'RE LOWERING THE DENSITY.
LOWERS RUNOFF, BY THE WAY, UH, AND BEAR WITH ME HERE.
A I TOOK A QUITE A FEW NOTES, UM, JUST TO REITERATE THAT THE, THE SUBJECT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES, BUT THIS IS A ZONING APPLICATION FOR REAL ESTATE, FOR LAND.
UM, AND IT, IT IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
SO IF ZONING IS ACHIEVED AND THE PROJECT DOES MOVE, MOVE FORWARD, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, EVEN IF THERE WAS A COMMUNITY FACILITY THAT WAS GONNA GO IN THAT AREA, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE SAME THINGS.
UH, LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE GONNA BUILD A, UH, POLICE SUBSTATION COMMUNITY FACILITY AS AN EXAMPLE.
I'M JUST THIS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT FLOODPLAIN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WAYS TO RECLAIM FLOODPLAIN, ALL THOSE THINGS TO MANAGE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE.
ENGINEERS UNDER THE TEXAS ENGINEERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE ACT ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE.
SO I CAN'T, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PRESENT PLANS, UH, OR ANY OTHER ENGINEER FOR THAT MATTER THAT GO AGAINST THAT.
THAT'S AGAINST OUR, OUR, OUR PRACTICE.
IT'S AGAINST MORALS AND IT'S AGAINST OUR ETHICS.
SO THAT, THAT, UH, I KNOW IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT I THINK IT GETS LOST IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND THEN IN, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, ARE SO, UH, ACUTE IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I, I, I PRAY THAT THAT UH, EVERY COMMUNITY THAT I WORK IN UNDERSTANDS AND CAN ALSO,
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UH, APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE UNDERGOING, UM, DESIGNS AND THINGS THAT ARE SET UP TO BE BLESSING THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE TOUCH.WE'RE ENRICHING THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE TOUCH.
SO, UM, IN SUMMARY, ON THAT POINT, UH, EVEN IF COMMUNITY FACILITIES WERE GONNA BE BUILT INTO THAT OPEN SPACE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A LOT, ALL THE SAME ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES, FLOODPLAIN PRINCIPLES AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UM, ZONING IS JUST THE FIRST STEP.
THE SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN IF, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A SUBDIVISION THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WITHOUT, UH, A LOT OF COMPUTATION, UH, MODELING, CONSIDERATION, CALCULATIONS AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, UH, VERY CLOSE COORDINATION WITH CITY STAFF, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE AN EXCELLENT CITY STAFF HERE.
SO, UH, WE DO THIS IN, IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH, AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, UH, THE CITY STAFF, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, PNZ.
UH, WE DON'T DO THIS IN THE VACUUM AND SAY, HERE YOU GO.
AND, UH, WHEN WE'RE OFF TO THE NEXT ONE, AND IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, WE'RE VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE, THAT WE TOUCH.
UM, YEAH, I GET, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HYDROLOGY LESSON OR A HYDRAULICS LESSON OR FLOODPLAIN OTHER, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD OR ANY, ANY PROJECT MOVES FORWARD IN THAT AREA, WE WOULD'VE TO LOOK AT FLOODPLAIN AND WAYS TO RECLAIM IT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
UM, SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, INCREASING THE RUNOFF, ANYTIME YOU BUILD SOMETHING, YES, WATER DOES SHUT OFF, SHED FASTER TO WHERE MOTHER NATURE WANTS TO TAKE IT.
IN THIS CASE, IT'S MARY'S CREEK.
UM, AS PART OF THAT COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION THAT I WAS SPEAKING OF JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED STORM WATER DETENTION.
AND IF, IF THERE'S TOO MUCH WATER BEING RELEASED FROM A, FROM A SITE, WE DESIGN DETENTION FACILITIES THAT HOLD BACK THAT WATER SO THAT IT GETS RELEASED AT THE RATE IT WAS BEING RELEASED BEFORE.
SO, ALTHOUGH, YES, WE, WE, WE, WE CAN ADMIT THAT RUNOFF HAPPENS EVERY TIME YOU INCREASE IMPERVIOUS AREA.
THAT'S ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES OF, OF ENGINEERING I LEARNED BACK IN COLLEGE.
BUT ONE WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT, AND THERE'S MANY ARE THINGS LIKE DETENTION, UM, NATURAL DETENTION, UNDERGROUND DETENTION.
UH, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
UM, AND THAT GOES ALL INTO THE MODELING AS WELL TO, TO SEE WHAT THE END RESULT IS.
UM, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS, UH, A RESPONSE TO THE THINGS I WAS HEARING, UM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
ANY MEMBER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RAMIREZ? NOPE.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.
I WAS THE CHAIR FOR THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMISSION, WHICH WE HAVE ABOUT EVERY 10, 15 YEARS OR SO.
SO WE HAVE TO PLAN OUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHAT SOMETHING'S GONNA BE, THE PROPERTY THAT'S BETWEEN US AND I 20 OUT THERE.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE THERE IN 10 YEARS? I'LL GUARANTEE YOU IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOR THE ZONING.
WE'VE NEARLY HAD A HOME DEPOT.
WE'VE NEARLY HAD AUTO BOND, UH, CAR DEALERSHIPS OUT THERE.
WE'VE NEARLY HAD, UH, NOTHING BUT HOMES IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES OUT THERE.
SO DON'T DWELL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS MUCH.
IT'S SORT OF AN OVERLAY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL AND DOES GET CHANGED QUITE A BIT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE MR. HOWARD SAID, IT'S NOT REGULATORY, IT'S NOT ZONING.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE THAT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW AT THAT TIME.
UH, I WILL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD.
UM, JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD FOR ONE STATEMENT EARLIER, WE DO NOT READ CASE LAW.
UH, WE DO TRY TO STAY ABREAST OF WHATEVER THE CITY ORDINANCES ARE IN CHANGING, UH, STATE LAW.
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UM, AS AN ATTORNEY, I DON'T LIKE READING CASE LAW, UH, WHEN I DON'T GET PAID FOR IT.UM, I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT, YES, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF LOOK THE SAME WHEN THERE'S A REAPPLICATION.
UM, CITY COUNCIL DID DENY IT WITH PREJUDICE, WHICH TYPICALLY MEANS, WELL, IT DOES MEAN YOU CAN'T BRING BACK THE SAME CLASSIFICATIONS AGAIN.
AND AS WE'VE LEARNED HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE LOTS OF CLASSIFICATIONS.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO KIND OF PUT ANOTHER LETTER ON THERE AND BRING IT BACK.
AND IT'S NOT LOST ON I BELIEVE ANY OF MY, ANY OF THE FOLKS UP HERE, WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE, WHICH INCLUDES THE APPLICANT TO HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I USUALLY SAY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH COMPLEX ISSUES IS IN ADDITION TO THE GREAT PAY THAT WE GET, WE DO, WE DO TAKE AN OATH AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR TERMS TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTRY AND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND CITY OF BENBROOK.
UM, AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME VERY DEDICATED STAFF, UH, THAT, THAT WORK HARD.
AND, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK IT'S, UH, INSTRUCTIVE AND I'D AGREE WITH THE CHAIR AND MR. HOWARD ABOUT, UM, COMP PLAN IS NOT ZONING, BUT IT'S HOW WE ORDER THINGS TO MAP OUT A FUTURE.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT STAFF REPORT.
AND I WOULD JUST, UM, HIGHLIGHT THIS ONE PARAGRAPH IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME.
IT SAYS, WHILE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES VALUABLE LONG RANGE GUIDANCE, ITS ROLE IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM ADOPTING ZONING REGULATIONS.
THE PLAN GENERALLY HELPS INFORM DECISIONS ABOUT APPROPRIATE LAND USE DECISIONS WHERE ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT YET ESTABLISHED.
HOWEVER, ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS A ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PROPERTY, IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING REGULATORY STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT, THAT ZONING DISTRICT CAN RESET THE LAND USE POLICY FOR THE AREA IN ADOPTING ORDINANCE 1490 AND LATER REAFFIRMING IT THROUGH THE 2025 DENIAL.
WITH PREJUDICE, THE COUNCIL EFFECTIVELY APPROVED A LAND USE POLICY DIRECTION FOR HOW THIS PROPERTY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP.
AND STAFF VIEWS THE CURRENT PD FRAMEWORK AS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LONG-TERM GOALS FOR THE AREA AND REPRESENTS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SITE.
ALTHOUGH OTHER ZONING CONFIGURATIONS MIGHT ALSO ALIGN WITH SOME ELEMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN, THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT BEST IMPLEMENTS THE CITY'S VISION IS DECIDED THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE COUNCIL ADOPTS A DIFFERENT POLICY DIRECTION OR PROVIDES AN UPDATED VISION FOR THE AREA.
BY AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT AS PROPOSED AND APPROVED UNDER THE PREVIOUS OWNERSHIP REMAINS THE CONTROLLING AND MOST SPECIFIC EXPRESSION OF CITY POLICY AND VISION FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THAT IS AN EXCELLENT SUMMATION OF WHAT I THINK THE ISSUE IS HERE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, UH, MS. WARD ASKED ABOUT BONDS BEING REQUIRED FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT? YES,
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I, I DID HEAR THAT QUESTION AND YES, DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS.BUT THERE ARE VARIOUS ELEMENTS WHERE YES, BONDS ARE REQUIRED.
YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE BONDS WHERE BEFORE THEY START WORK ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, OR SOON TO BE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, THEY PULL BONDS TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE, IT CAN CONTINUE TO BE BUILT.
IF SOMEBODY LOSES THEIR MONEY, THEN WE HAVE A BOND THAT WE CAN PULL AND FINISH THE PROJECT.
UH, IN, IN THE EVENT, UH, WITH FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT, UM, I'M NOT THE, THE EXPERT, UH, BUT I HAVE HEARD OUR, UH, FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR TALK ABOUT BONDS BEING REQUIRED FOR THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE EXTENT, UH, OF WHAT THOSE BONDS COVER, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, BUT OUR, UH, ANOTHER BOND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS, UH, MAINTENANCE BONDS.
UH, AND THOSE COVER TYPICALLY, AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX AND OTHER CITIES, BUT IT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS, UH, WHERE THEY WILL COVER ANY DEFECTS FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THERE? BEING NONE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL DENY THE ZONING REQUEST.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. HARPEL? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN DENIED.
DID YOU CHAIR IF I, IF I COULD MAKE JUST ONE? YES.
UH, JUST, JUST, JUST, WELL, I CAN STILL SAY JUST 'CAUSE YOU SAID THE WORDS, THE APPLICATION HAVE BEEN DENIED.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN SENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DENIAL.
I'M GONNA CHANGE THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENIED IF, IF THE APPLICANT PROCEEDS, SORRY, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THE FINAL YES, UH, DECISION.
AND THAT COULD BE AS EARLY AS, UH, THE THIRD WEEK, THIRD THURSDAY, IN JANUARY.
UM, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT AGENDA LOOKS LIKE.
THANK YOU MR. HOWARD FOR CLARIFYING.