[I. CALL TO ORDER ]
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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UH, JANUARY 13TH, 2022, UH, PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION TO ORDER.[II. CITIZEN COMMENTS ON ANY AGENDA ITEM ]
UM, FIRST ITEM IS WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING TO CITIZEN COMMENT ON ANY, UH, AGENDA ITEM.PARTICIPANTS MAY COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, HOWEVER, THERE'LL BE NO DISCUSSION OR RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION OR CITY STAFF DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO COMMENT ON ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AFTER THE ITEM IS PRESENTED AS WELL.
ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD IN A ORDERLY FASHION.
WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UH, FOR THE RECORD, AND SPECIFY THE ITEM TO WHICH YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE ADDRESSING.
UM, YOU'D BE ABLE TO COME TO THE PODIUM RIGHT OVER HERE ON THE SIDE, AND IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY, UH, MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU'RE WISHING TO COMMENT ON, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP AND REPEAT THE ITEM OVER A REPETITIVELY IF YOU DON'T WISH TO.
SO, WE'LL NOW GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT TO ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND IF, IF I MAY CHAIR, JUST TO REITERATE, UM, UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING TO THE MICROPHONE, SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S A LULL AND, UH, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I, I, I RECOGNIZE SEVERAL OF YOUR FACES, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK LATER ON, UH, FOR THE TRINITY ESTATES ITEM.
UM, BUT YOU'RE, YOU, YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK NOW.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE, THAT CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION HERE AT THIS TIME.
[III. MINUTES Approve Minutes Of The Regular Meeting Held On December 9, 2021 ]
NEXT TIME ON OUR, UH, AGENDA IS THE MINUTES, UM, FOR APPROVAL FROM THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2021 MEETING OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAD LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION, PLEASE.
WE'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UM, VOTE ON THOSE MINUTES.
THE MINUTES HAVE, UH, PASSED, UH, WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS.
[IV. SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ]
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE SELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR, UH, FOR, UH, THE PLANNING ZONE COMMISSION FOR 2022.WE WILL DO 'EM EACH SEPARATELY, AND THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR ANY NOMINATIONS.
UH, FOR THE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, ALFREDO VERDE AS CHAIR.
I HAVE, UH, I SECOND, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
IS THERE ANY, UM, DISCUSSION OR ADDITIONAL, UH, NOMINATIONS AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, THERE ARE NONE.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE, UM, ON THAT NOMINATION.
UH, THE NOMINATION HAS BEEN APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
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ALBERTE, NOT A PROBLEM.AND AT THIS TIME, HE WILL, YOU JUST SLIDE RIGHT,
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH THE, UH, NOMINATION FOR THE VICE CHAIR.
DO I, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE, WE KNOW PLACE FIVE.
I'M SORRY, I'M KIND OF NEW TO THIS, UH, JUMP AROUND AGAIN,
LEAH, WERE YOU, DID YOU, DID YOU HAVE A NOMINATION? MR. I THINK YOU'RE LIT.
SO, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, JOHN CRAVER, UH, TO, UH, ACT AS VICE CHAIR.
MR. ELLISON? YEAH, RIGGS, UH, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER LOGAN, BUT HE'S NOT HERE.
DO WE HAVE, UM, MOTION ON SECONDING OR ANY OTHER CANDIDATES? MR. WALLACE? I WOULD SECOND THE NOMINATION FOR MR. CRAVER.
ANY FURTHER? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION FOR, UH, JOHN LOGAN.
SORRY, JUST A POINT OF ORDER SINCE THERE WAS A SECOND THAT WE WILL, WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS FIRST AND THE FIRST ONE.
IN THAT CASE, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A, UH, VOTE ON MR. CRAVER'S.
AND IT CARRIES CONGRATULATIONS.
[V. REPORTS BY CITY STAFF ]
UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START RIGHT INTO, THAT WAS STRESSFUL.THIS IS ON ATTORNEY STATE'S FACES THREE AND FOUR, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO APPROVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR APPROXIMATELY 75 ACRES OF LAND SITUATED IN THE W JACKSON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 8 57, AND THE J DUNHAM SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 4 0 9, TARN COUNTY, BENBROOK, TEXAS, THE PROPERTY ZONE, B ONE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF TIMBERLINE DRIVE AND VERNON CASTLE AVENUE.
THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING A TWO PHASE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, CREATING 199 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UM, MR. POWER, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION? YES.
UM, WE HAVE ON OUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SET IN SOME OF THE, THE APPLICANT'S SLIDES.
UM, SO THEY'RE, THEIR SLIDES ARE PUT BEFORE MINE.
SO IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT'S TO COME FORWARD FIRST.
WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? SO, OKAY.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING.
UH, I'M THE CEO AND OWNER OF SANDLIN HOMES.
ADDRESS IS 51 37 DAVIS BOULEVARD, FORT WORTH, TEXAS.
THANK YOU, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME TONIGHT.
UM, UH, BASICALLY I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UH, HISTORY OF LIN HOMES, UH, ABOUT
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THE COMPANY, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.AND THEN, UH, JOE LACROIX WITH THE MY ENGINEERING FIRM CAN KIND OF GO OVER SOME TECHNICAL STUFF WITH YOU.
UM, SO SAILING HOMES, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1957.
UH, THIS IS OUR 65TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'RE THE ONE OF THE OLDEST LOCAL HOME BUILDERS IN DALLAS-FORT WORTH.
UM, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PLANNING IS TRINITY ESTATES HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF, UH, OPEN SPACE CONNECTIVITY TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.
UM, THE, THE HOUSES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, THEY'LL PROBABLY START AROUND $500,000, SO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS STARTING.
UM, THAT'S WITH TODAY'S PRICES AND THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AND GOING WITH THE, THE BUILDING IS PROBABLY GONNA GET UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.
UH, BUT AT FINISH OUT WITH 199 LOTS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT $120 MILLION TOTAL, UH, ON THE TAX BASE.
UH, WHEN THIS THING'S ALL FINISHED OUT, UM, WE HAVE SOME SLIDES OF SOME KIND OF EXAMPLES OF PRODUCTS THAT WE BUILD, UH, ACROSS DALLAS FORT WORTH.
UM, IT'S 70 FOOT LOTS, SO NICE, NICE, UH, NICE HOMES IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND THEN I'LL LET JOE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ACTUAL SPECIFICS OF THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
JOE LACROIX WITH BD HAMPTON AND BROWN ENGINEERING.
OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 6,300 RIDGELEY PLACE IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.
AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
I APPRECIATE STAFF'S TIME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PROJECT, UM, PRESENTED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS OF CINDY BENBROOK.
UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO YOU ALL.
THERE ARE TWO WAIVER REQUESTS ATTACHED TO THE PROJECT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, CONCERNING DRAINAGE TRAFFIC, THOSE ITEMS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE NOW OR AFTER STAFF HAS MADE, MADE THEIR PRESENTATION.
OH, OH, IN THE MEANTIME, UH, DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NOT, UH, MR. YEAH, NOT NOW.
MR. HOWARD, IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND DO THE, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, LET, LET ME JUST STATE, UH, THE ITEM, UH, UP FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMISSION TONIGHT IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR 75 ACRES, UH, BETWEEN TRINITY ESTATES.
I'M, I'M SORRY, UH, 75 ACRES BETWEEN TRINITY ESTATES AND THE TRINITY CREEK ON THE EAST SIDE OF TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
UH, PRELIMINARY PLATS PROVIDE FOR THE GENERAL, UH, LAYOUT FOR A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, UH, INCLUDING THE GENERAL LOT LAYOUT, STREET LAYOUTS, UH, EASEMENT LOCATIONS.
UH, PRELIMINARY PLANS ARE ALSO SUBMITTED TO SHOW THE TYPICAL SHOW THAT TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS CAN BE MET, UM, SUCH AS MINIMUM ZONING, REG REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS REGULATIONS ON STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE CONTROLS, AND ACCESS TO, UH, NECESSARY UTILITIES LIKE WATER, SEWER, AND POWER.
UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO GO OVER TONIGHT IS, UH, A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, WHAT THEIR ROLE IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, I FEEL THAT A LOT OF QUESTIONS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, UH, MANY TO SOME OF YOU.
AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME BENEFIT FOR THE EXPLANATION THAT I'VE, I'VE GIVEN TO SEVERAL OF YOU, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
UM, THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TYPICALLY ACTS ON TWO TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
UH, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE LEGISLATIVE AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE.
UH, IN REGARDS TO LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
THIS COMMISSION IS TASKED WITH MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING REQUESTS FOR, UM, ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES, UH, AND UPDATES TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THOSE THINGS REQUIRE FINAL ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL.
WHEN WE LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, UH, LIKE SITE PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENTS OR MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS, UM,
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THIS COMMISSION IS THE, THE FINAL, UH, TAKES THE FINAL ACTION, UH, WITH REGARDS TO PLATS, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT.UM, THE STATE HAS HEAVILY REGULATED THE PLAT PROCESS, UM, RECENTLY, UH, WITH THE PASSING OF THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL, AS WE CALL IT, DURING THE, UH, 86 LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN 2019.
UH, THEY REITERATED AND CLARIFIED THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MUST APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE ANY PLAT WITHIN THE CITY, UH, WITHIN 30 DAYS, ALONG WITH THEIR ACCOMPANYING SUBDIVISION, UH, CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
SO, IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, AND IF THE PLAT CONFORMS TO AND ADHERES TO ADOPTED REGULATIONS AND PROCESSES, UH, IT MUST BE APPROVED.
THE FIRST STEP IN, IN A LOT OF, UH, CITY PROCESSES FOR DEVELOPMENT IS ZONING, UM, WHEN A ZONING DESIGNATION IS IN PLACE, THIS PROVIDES THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH A SET OF ALLOWED USES, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS USES, ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE CASE.
IN THIS CASE, THE AREA ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS A USE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, IF A DEVELOPER CHOOSES TO DEVELOP AN ALLOWED USE.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SPECIAL PERMISSION, UH, REGARDING THE USE, UH, REQUIRED BEYOND ADHERENCE TO DEVELOPMENT, UH, REGULATIONS, UM, AND OTHER PROCESSES LIKE PLATTING AND, UH, PERMIT REVIEWS.
THE NEXT STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AFTER ZONING HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
AS I PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY STATED, IF A DEVELOPER CONFORMS TO OUR CURRENT REGS, UM, AND REGULATIONS AND GOES THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESSES, UH, THE PLATS DO NEED TO BE APPROVED.
UM, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE A CLR APPROVAL, UH, CONDITIONAL LETTER OF MAP PROVISION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH FEMA.
UM, AS YOU'RE ALL VERY WELL AWARE, THIS AREA IS LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN, AND I'LL HAVE A, A PICTURE OF THAT, UH, LATER ON.
UM, FIRST THEY GO THROUGH FEMA.
IF THEY GET THIS CONDITIONAL LETTER OF MAP PROVISION APPROVED, UH, THEN THEY CAN MOVE ON TO THE REST OF THEIR PROCESSES.
UH, IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY AND THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THEIR FINAL PLAT FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE WATER AND SEWER PLANS, UM, FROM THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
AFTER THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, THEN, UH, THE CITY WILL ENTER INTO A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, UH, THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN DEVELOPER AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE, TO START THEIR CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR SITE GRADING AND THEIR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, AND AFTER THEY'VE GRADED THE LOT TO THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS, UH, TO GET IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, THEN THEY GO BACK THROUGH ANOTHER FEMA PROCESS, WHICH IS CALLED THE LMER, UH, LETTER OF MAP REVISION.
AND FEMA BASICALLY CHECKS EVERYTHING AND MAKES SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY BUILT WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD.
AND THEN AFTER THAT GETS APPROVED AND THEY FINISH UP THEIR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORKS, THEY GOT THE SEWER LINE, WATER LINES IN ROADS, IN STREET LIGHTS, UM, ALL OF THAT, THEN THEY CAN, UH, RECORD THE PLAT, AND THE CITY WOULD ACCEPT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IF IT MEETS, UH, PASSES INSPECTIONS.
AND THEN AFTER ALL THESE PROCESSES ARE DONE, THEN UH, THE, THE HOME BUILDER CAN GO IN AND, AND START PULLING PERMITS.
UH, THIS IS THAT PICTURE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, UM, THAT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF.
UH, SO THE GREEN IS NOT REGULATED OR CONTROLLED BY FEMA.
THAT'S CONSIDERED THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, UM, THERE'S NOTHING INHERENTLY SPECIAL ABOUT THAT AREA.
DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO ANYBODY'S, UH, INSURANCE RATES, BUT THE RED AND THE BLUE, THE RED IS THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, AND THE BLUE IS THE FLOODWAY.
SO CONSTRUCTION IN THE BLUE CAN'T HAPPEN.
CONSTRUCTION IN THE RED CAN'T HAPPEN UNLESS YOU RECLAIM IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND ONCE FEMA PROVES THAT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, THEN IT CAN THEN BE DEVELOPED.
UM, SO BACK TO THE, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THERE WAS A COUPLE ITEMS. I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND.
UH, IN 1985, THERE WAS A PLAT CALLED TRINITY
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ESTATES.PHASE THREE THAT WAS RECORDED IS ABOUT 34 ACRES, HAD 135 LOTS.
UM, LATER ON IN 1998, ANOTHER PLOT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 22 ACRES TO THE NORTH OF, OF WHERE THE TRINITY ESTATES PHASE THREE CURRENTLY SITS, WAS PLATTED.
AND, UH, IT WAS, THEY JUST CREATED ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOT UP THERE.
I I THINK THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A STRUCTURE OUT THERE.
I I HEARD A FEW PEOPLE ASK ABOUT, UH, A FARMHOUSE KIND OF THING, A BARN.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT WAS PLATTED.
UH, THE PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPER IS TO VACATE THOSE PLATS AND THE VA WHAT, WHAT A VACATION MEANS IS YOU RECORD A DOCUMENT WITH TARRANT COUNTY THAT SAYS THOSE PLATS NO LONGER EXIST, AND THEY, THEY DISAPPEAR.
AND THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL RECORD A NEW PLAT, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE 75 ACRES, UH, WHICH IS THE 199 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE, THE HISTORY OF THE ZONING.
UH, THIS AREA IS, IS HEAVILY SINGLE FAMILY, AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE ZONING MAP.
AND FORGIVE ME 'CAUSE I AM A LITTLE CALLED COLORBLIND, THAT'S YELLOW TO ME.
I HOPE IT'S YELLOW TO ALL OF YOU.
OTHERWISE, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT TO SAY NEXT TIME.
UM, THE YELLOWISH AREA, UH, IS A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE CALLED B ONE FAMILY.
UH, THERE'S ANOTHER DIFFERENT YELLOW COLOR ON THE MAP THAT IS A B PD, WHICH IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS WHEN IT WAS APPROVED TO BE A A B PD, UH, THEY OBTAINED SOME DEVIATIONS TO THE ZONING REGULATIONS.
UM, SO THEY MOSTLY ADHERE TO THE SAME B ZONING REGULATIONS.
UH, BUT THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL ALSO SEE WHERE THE SHADY RIVER ESTATES IS.
THAT'S A ZONING, THAT'S WHAT THIS ENTIRE AREA USED TO BE ZONED BACK WHEN THE CITY WAS FIRST CREATED IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES.
UH, IN 1985, OR, OR SORRY, 1983, THAT'S WHEN, UM, THE ZONING CHANGED TO A B AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A B ZONING AND AN A ZONING IS THE LOT SIZE.
SO A MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR B ZONING IS 8,400 SQUARE FOOT, AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR AN A ZONING IS 9,000 SQUARE FOOT.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE VERY, VERY SIMILAR.
UM, IN CASE ANYBODY WANTED TO KNOW, THESE ARE THE, THE MINIMUM REGULATIONS FOR THE B ONE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THIS IS ALSO WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO LOOK FOR, UH, WHEN CREATING THEIR PLAT.
THEY HAD TO, THEY SUBDIVIDED INTO LOTS, AND THEY HAD TO MAKE SURE EACH LOT WASN'T LESS THAN 8,400 SQUARE FOOT.
UM, SO YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.
YOUR SETBACKS, YOUR BUILDING CAN'T BE CLOSER THAN 25 FEET TO THE, TO THE STREET, UH, OR 15 FEET FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS.
SO YOU CAN HAVE SEVEN AND A HALF ON ONE SIDE OF YOUR LOT, SEVEN AND A HALF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR LOT FOR A TOTAL OF 15 FEET.
OR YOU COULD DO FIVE FEET ON ONE SIDE, 10 FEET ON ANOTHER.
WE DO REQUIRE TWO PARKING SPACES, UM, FOR EACH LOT.
AND THOSE PARKING SPACES HAS TO BE LOCATED BEHIND THAT FRONT YARD LINE.
SO EVERYBODY HAS A DRIVEWAY WITH TWO PARKING SPACES, BUT EVEN FURTHER BEHIND BASICALLY 25 FEET FROM THE STREET, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE REQUIRED ONES.
YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL, BUT THAT'S ALL THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.
AND THEN THE CITY ONLY REQUIRES ONE TREE.
UH, BUT BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S PLANS, UH, PRELIMINARY PLANS, THEY WILL BE PLANTING MORE THAN THAN ONE TREE PROBABLY ON EACH LOT.
AND WE'LL SEE THAT FURTHER ON WHEN WE GET INTO THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SO THIS, AS YOU SAW THE APPLICANT, UH, SHOW WHEN THEY WERE UP AT THE PODIUM, UH, THIS IS THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.
YOU GOT PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERNMOST HAS ABOUT 73 LOTS IN THAT PHASE WITH TWO ACCESS POINTS TO, UH, TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
AND THEN PHASE FOUR HAS ABOUT 126 LOTS, UH, WITH AN ADDITIONAL THIRD ACCESS POINT, UH, TO THE NORTH.
UM, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT IN TWO PHASES.
AND IF ANYBODY'S CURIOUS, WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THE FIRST PHASE AND THEY RECORD A FINAL PLAT WITH TARRANT COUNTY, UH, THAT WILL ACTIVATE THE SECOND PHASE, AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE, UH, TWO YEARS TO RECORD ANOTHER PLAT.
OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE TO START OVER WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS.
UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THEIR SCHEDULING, UH, ON WHAT THEIR
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PLANS ARE, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE TYPICAL REGULATIONS.UM, ON THE PLAT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE'S A PAGE HERE THAT KIND OF, UH, HAS A LOT OF TABLES ON IT.
WHAT THIS SHOWED STAFF AMONGST SOME OTHER THINGS IS, UH, WHAT EACH LOT, UH, AND THE SIZE OF EACH LOT, THIS IS HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA MEET THOSE ZONING REGULATIONS.
UM, WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE OVER, OVER THE ENTIRE 199 LOTS IS YOU'RE LOOKING JUST UNDER, UM, 11,200 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AND SO THAT'S, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HIGHER THAN OUR MINIMUM 8,400 SQUARE FOOT.
AND THEN FOR THOSE, YES, THEY HAD SOME BIGGER LOTS.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MEDIAN, WHICH IS HOW, HOW MANY LOTS, UH, ARE OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THE MEDIAN LOT IS ABOUT 9,700 SQUARE FOOT.
SO THAT MEANS ROUGHLY HALF THE LOTS OR AT LEAST 9,700 SQUARE FOOT OR LARGER.
AND THE REST ARE ANYWHERE BETWEEN THAT, UM, 8,400 SQUARE FOOT TO THE 9,700 SQUARE FOOT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT DURING PRELIMINARY PLAT TIME IS, IS THEIR, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IT'S A, NOT A REGULATORY DOCUMENT, BUT IT'S A GUIDE TO CITY OFFICIALS AND DECISION MAKERS WITHIN THE CITY, UH, WHERE THEY, UM, THERE'S SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND PRINCIPLES, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE LISTED THROUGHOUT.
UH, ONE OF THE SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEALS WITH LAND USE AND HOW WE WANNA DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
ONE OF THE GOALS WAS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW SUBDIVISION COMING IN, UH, WE, WE WANT THE DENSITY OF THAT SUBDIVISION TO BE SIMILAR TO THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS.
AND SO WHAT THIS SCREEN KIND OF SHOWS THE, THE, THE ABUTTING SUBDIVISIONS, YOU GOT GREENBRIAR, TRINITY GARDENS AND TRINITY ESTATES.
UH, THE CURRENT TRINITY ESTATES, UH, PHASES ONE AND TWO, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION HAS ABOUT 2.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHERE THE EXISTING, UH, SUBDIVISIONS CURRENTLY HAVE 3.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY MUCH LESS DENSE THAN THE CURRENT SUBDIVISIONS ARE.
UH, AND NOT TO BORE YOU, BUT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING.
I'VE DONE A FEW MORE CALCULATIONS,
SO THE ORIGINAL TRINITY ESTATES, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT 135 LOTS ARE CURRENTLY PLATTED ON THE 34 ACRES.
THEY WERE AT 3.9 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO MUCH MORE DENSE THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UM, WHERE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THAT, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE 3.6.
WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THIS WOULD BRING THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN TO 3.3 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
AND FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN TRINITY ESTATES PHASE, AND ONE, PHASE ONE AND TWO, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AT 3.6 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
THOSE WHO LIVE IN TRINITY GARDENS, YOU'RE AT 3.4 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
AND GREENBRIER, YOU'RE AT ALSO 3.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE, A LOT OF THE CONCERN WAS THEY, WE DIDN'T WANT SMALLER LOTS AND SMALLER HOMES THAN WHAT CURRENTLY IS OUT THERE.
AND, AND HOPEFULLY THIS WOULD AT LEAST ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS IN THAT AREA, UM, TO SHOW THAT IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE LESS DENSE AND PROBABLY A LITTLE LARGER, UH, ON AVERAGE THAN THE CURRENT SUBDIVISION.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, STAFF DID DO A, A REVIEW OVER THE PRELIMINARY PLANS.
WE FOUND THAT THEY DID SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM WITH THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW MORE WHEN WE REVIEW THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
UM, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT SUBMITTAL, UH, STAFF COMMENTS, UH, CONNECTED TO THE STAFF REPORT CONTAIN, UM, COMMENTS AND REVISION, UH, REQUESTS FOR THE APPLICANT TO LOOK FOR.
THOSE ARE BEST HANDLED PROBABLY, UH, DURING THE FINAL PLAT AND AND ENGINEERING REVIEW PROCESS, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE, WE'VE ADDED THAT AS BASICALLY A CONDITION TO THE APPROVAL IS THAT THEY FOLLOW OUR, OUR COMMENTS AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND, UM, AND THEIR ATTACHMENTS WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUEST, UH, NUMBER P 2201, SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS AS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ATTACHMENTS.
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PRESENTATION.I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HOWARD? I HAVE A QUESTION.
MR. FERRERA, WE MENTIONED TO THIS, CAN YOU, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW IT COMPARES TO THE, MY MICROPHONE? YEAH.
WE MENTIONED THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, KIND OF INCORPORATED.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW IT COMPARES TO MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS? 'CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS MORE THERE THAN PROBABLY WAS REQUIRED.
SO, AS FAR AS WHAT'S REQUIRED BY OUR ORDINANCES, THERE, THERE IS NO GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
UM, AS IT STANDS, THERE MAY BE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE SOME OPEN SPACE AS FAR AS DRAINAGE GOES AND, AND, AND THAT, BUT THERE'S NO CITY REGULATION THAT REQUIRES THE GREEN SPACE ASIDE FROM OUR LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
UM, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING ALONG.
AND, AND THIS IS IN MY, UM, COMMENTS, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING AND A MASONRY WALL ALONG TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
UM, THAT'S, WE CALL THAT AN F TWO BUFFER YARD, UH, 10 FOOT, UH, BUFFER YARD WITH SOME SHRUBS, SOME UNDERSTORY TREES, SOME CANOPY TREES, AND OBVIOUSLY THE MASONRY WALL.
UH, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND THEN ANYTHING THEY, THE APPLICANTS DECIDE TO DO THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR ORDINANCE.
AND FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, I DON'T HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THEIR, THEIR GREEN SPACE, SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE QUITE YET.
BUT, UM, THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND AS FAR AS THE CITY REGULATIONS, EXCEPT I'M SURE THEY, UH, THEY, THEY WILL BE, UH, ADHERING TO THE CLR REQUIREMENTS AND FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. ELLISON? I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION, MR. HOWARD.
SO, UM, IF YOU, I CAN'T REMEMBER ON VERNON CASTLE, I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS.
THERE'S A, THERE'S SEEM, THERE'S A BIG DRAINAGE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF LOTS THERE.
THAT IS A, THAT'S A BIG DRAINAGE, UH, SITE.
UM, THESE HOA LOTS, ARE THEY, ARE THEY GONNA BE OPEN? WHAT, WHAT WILL THEY LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, WILL THEY BE DEPRESSED? WILL THEY, WILL SOME OF 'EM BE HOLES, YOU KNOW, LARGE KIND OF DRAINAGE HOLES? WHAT DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE WILL LOOK LIKE? UH, WE, WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLANS.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY BEST ADDRESSED BY THE, THE APPLICANT.
TO MAYBE EXPLAIN WHAT THEY PLAN TO HAVE.
THAT AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL DESIGN, SO I COULDN'T, I, I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK AND WHAT, AND, AND SET THE EXPECTATION, BUT, UH, I, I WOULD REFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.
ONE MORE FOR YOU ON THE SCREENING.
UM, WOULD YOU SAY IT WAS CALLED B TWO F TWO? YEAH.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NICE MASONRY WALLS, AND THEN THERE'S SOME, YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE FALLING DOWN.
AND SO IN, IN THAT, IN THAT CATEGORY OF MASONRY WALL, DOES IT INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, REQUIREMENTS IN QUALITY OR SO THAT, SO THAT IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH WALLS THAT ARE COLLAPSING ALONG THAT ROAD? SO I CAN PROBABLY ANSWER IN, IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE, THE FIRST, IT DOES CALL OUT A DECORATIVE FENCE, UM, OR A, A DECORATIVE WALL.
OBVIOUSLY THE BEAUTIFUL SIDE FACING THE STREET, UM, IT DOESN'T GO INTO PURE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S, THAT VARIES, UH, BUT WHAT, WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES NOW, AND AND I UNDERSTAND IN THE PAST IT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT THE CITY NOW REQUIRES IF YOU HAVE COMMON SPACE SUCH AS A WALL, UM, FOR THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IT IS REQUIRED FOR THE SUBDIVISION TO OWN AND MAINTAIN THIS WALL, UH, THE HOA OR, OR PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION HAS TO BE CREATED.
UM, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE PROVISIONS IN THEIR HOA DOCUMENTS SHOWING HOW THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR THINGS AND HOW THEY'RE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.
SO THEY WILL BE MAINTAINING THEIR WALL AND THE CITY WOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO DOING THAT.
MR. HOWARD, IF, IF I CAN JUST FOLLOW UP PLEASE, UH, UH, THAT LINE OF, UM, THOUGHT, UH, ALSO, COULD YOU, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US HERE, COULD YOU ALSO TELL US ABOUT HOW THERE IS A CITY ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THEM? ANY, ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IT FALLS DOWN OR LIENS OR WHATNOT, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING IT, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, FENCE MAINTENANCE STANDARDS.
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UH, IF A, IN, IN THE CASE OF A WALL, IF THE WALL IS CRUMBLING, UM, BROKEN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY, THEY DO HAVE TO, UH, REPAIR.AND IF THE FENCE IS LEANING MORE THAN 15 DEGREES, IT ALSO HAS TO BE REPAIRED.
UM, I'M SORRY, MS, DO YOU NO, I, I WAS, FOR NOW I'M DONE.
MR. WALLACE? NO, I WAS, I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION OF MR. HOWARD, OR AT LEAST AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
UH, IF I CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT BACK UP.
SO I THINK MR. WALLACE, OH, NO, NO.
I WAS GONNA LET 'EM MAKE THEIR PRESENT TENSE.
I'D, I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK ON ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I THINK DOUG GAVE A, A GREAT COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IF I, IF I MIGHT AS WE, UM, WENT FORWARD HERE.
SO THE HOA OPEN SPACE LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN LOCATED STRATEGICALLY ON THE PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE DRAINAGE AND FLOODPLAIN CONCERNS.
SO WHAT, WHAT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT IS THERE'S TWO MAJOR STORM DRAIN SYSTEMS THAT DISCHARGE ONTO THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, ONE NEAR, UH, VERNON CASTLE AND ONE NEAR BRAZO DRIVE COMING OUT OF THE ORIGINAL TRINITY STATE'S, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THOSE HOA OPEN SPACES HAVE BEEN LOCATED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
SO WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IS, IS STILL SOMEWHAT IN DESIGN, BUT THOSE WILL BE OPEN CHANNELS AND COMBINATION OF, OF PARK-LIKE AREAS WITH SOME OPEN CHANNELS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S A, A STORM DURING JUST DISCHARGES FROM VERNON, NEAR VERNON CASTLE THAT SITS IN THIS OPEN FIELD THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD DISCHARGE PLACE TO GET TO.
UM, PART OF OUR HOA DESIGN SCHEME AND, AND STORM DRAINAGE DESIGN IS GONNA ACCOMMODATE THAT, ALLOW FOR THAT WATER TO, TO DISCHARGE INTO AN OPEN SPACE AND THEN TAKE THAT ONTO THE TRINITY RIVER SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS STANDING WATER AND, AND MOSQUITO PONDING SCENARIO THERE.
AND THE DIVISION KIND OF IS, UH, IF WE CAN GET A, A PERMIT TO DRILL A WELL, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE BOTTOM PART AS A, A WATER FEATURE WITH A FOUNTAIN AND THEN GREEN SPACE AROUND IT.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT GETTING A, A PERMIT TO DRILL A WELL 'CAUSE WE WANNA KEEP IT FULL IF WE CAN.
IF NOT, WE'D MAKE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A GREEN SPACE WITH SOME, UH, PARK BENCHES, GAZEBOS AND SOME OTHER STUFF THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DOWN IN THE, IN THE GREEN SPACE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION, MR. WALLACE? SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING.
I KIND OF WISH WE COULD BLOW THAT UP BIGGER, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE TWO YEAH, SORRY.
SO THAT MAY BE, BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE GREEN ON THERE, PEOPLE PROBABLY THINK GREEN SPACE.
BUT THE WAY TO DEFINE IT, THE, THE DEFINITION ON THE PLAT IS THAT THOSE ARE THE DRAINAGE OR DETENTION AREAS.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP THOSE OPEN TO, TO ENSURE THAT YOU DON'T OR THEY, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE RUNOFF OVERALL FROM THE PROPERTY ONTO NEIGHBORS.
IT, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
SO THEY'RE DEFINED AS HOA OPEN SPACES AS, AS PART OF THE PLATTING PROCESS.
THERE'LL BE LOTS THAT ARE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAINLY LOCATED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE.
AND SO, BECAUSE YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE A REQUIREMENT PROBABLY BOTH WITH REGARD TO CITY REGULATIONS, THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, BUT AS WELL AS CIVIL LAW, NOT TO HAVE, UH, ADVERSE IMPACTS OF WATER AS A RESULT OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD IM IMPACT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IT KIND OF TWOFOLD ANSWER HERE.
UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA RAISE THE WATER SURFACE ELEVATION, WE'RE ACCOMMODATING THE DRAINAGES COMING TO THE SITE, AND WE WILL HAVE NO ADVERSE IMPACT.
UH, SECONDLY, THE HOAO OPEN SPACES WILL HAVE AMENITIES WE'VE MENTIONED KIND OF WALKING TRAILS.
THERE'LL BE TRAIL CONNECTIONS FROM TIMBERLINE DRIVE THROUGH THE, THE LONG LINEAR SPACE THERE AND CONNECTING TO THE TRINITY TRAIL SYSTEM.
THERE'LL BE LANDSCAPE WITH TREES AND, AND BENCHES AND OTHER AMENITY ITEMS. THANK YOU.
AND THEN TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, LIKE YOU'RE HERE, UM,
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YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR.SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT'S NOT JUST LIKE ME, WHO'S NOT AN ENGINEER MAKING THAT STATEMENT, YOU'VE ACTUALLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING AN ON THE RECORD STATEMENT BASED UPON YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND YOUR JUDGMENT THAT IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE CITY OF BENBROOK, UH, EXCUSE ME, BENBROOK, UM, FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED, PRELIMINARILY APPROVED BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.
WE'RE ALSO SUBMITTING TO THEM BE REVIEWED.
UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE, THE FEMA PROCESS AND THE CLR PROCESS THAT DOUG DESCRIBED EARLIER.
THEN WE'LL GO BACK AGAIN FOR THE LMER PROCESS.
SO THIS WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED SEVERAL TIMES, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
WE'LL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT.
NOW LET'S GO JUST FOR A COUPLE MINUTES TO THE TRAFFIC.
UH, I GUESS THE T WAS IT THE T-I-A-T-I-A, SORRY, TOO MANY A'S, SO WHAT IS YOUR, UM, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, UM, I NEED TO WRITE THAT TERM DOWN, NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND MORE CARS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST BY THE NATURE.
SO IT'S GONNA, WHAT IS, WHAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES IN THAT REGARD? SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEP QUESTION THERE.
UM, BASICALLY LEVEL OF SERVICE DEFINED LEVELS A THROUGH F.
UM, I BELIEVE THE CITY REQUIRES LEVEL C.
IS THAT RIGHT, DOUG? UM, WE'RE BASICALLY AT LEVEL C NOW AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TAKING ANY LOWER TO THAT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE PRELIMINARY STUDY THAT WE'VE DONE, MANY OF YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC COUNTING DEVICES OUT THERE.
WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH A, A FINAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND, AND ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE THERE TO OFFSET THAT IN THAT SLIGHT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WILL BE MADE AS WELL.
SO I WAS A C STUDENT SCHOOL, BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY C LEVEL 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT COMMON VERNACULAR FOR SURE.
AND JUST, I'M SURE THERE'S A NUMBER COUNT, YOU KNOW, PER, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE COUNTERS.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.
I CAN'T SPECIFY THAT ANSWER IN EXACT NUMBERS.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF ME.
WE WILL, ONCE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS DONE, IT'S DEFINED BASED ON DIFFERENT STREET SECTIONS.
SO LEVEL OF SERVICE ON A FREEWAY IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT VERSUS LEVEL OF SERVICE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHERE THAT'S AT AND HOW WELL THOSE TRAFFIC FLOWS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, UM, STREETS LIKE VERNON CASTLE, THAT WILL NOW BE LIKE A DIRECT CUT THROUGH TO THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
HAVE YOU GUYS WORKED WITH THE CITY AT ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STREET THAT ALREADY HAS TONS OF SPEEDING CARS AND GOES DOWNHILL WILL BE NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE USING THIS ROAD THAN THEY ALREADY DO? YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT, WE, WE HELD OFF A LITTLE BIT ON THE TIA BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET AN ACCURATE COUNT.
UM, WHAT REALLY COUNTS IS, IS DURING SCHOOL HOURS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PICKED UP ALL THOSE CARS COMING IN AND OUT, SCHOOL TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY AS YOU GO THROUGH SCHOOL AT HOME, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO, TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
ULTIMATELY, UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'LL BE ANY UPDATES REQUIRED, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WILL, WILL WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THIS CITY.
WILL YOU GUYS, AND I, THIS MIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS, SO I KNOW THAT THE COUNTERS ARE ON TIMBERLINE RIGHT NOW.
WILL THERE BE ANYTHING THAT'S BEING COUNTED ON VERNON CASTLE? I I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MR. ELLISON? YEAH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE CITY.
DO WE, SO THAT COMP, THAT STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE, WHO'S THAT? WHO'S THAT WITH? WHO'S THE CITY ENTITY OR GROUP THAT THAT'S WITH? AND I'M JUST INTERESTED IN WHAT THE POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE.
WHAT ARE POSSIBLE TRAFFIC ABATING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COULD COME OUT OF THAT STUDY? I'M NOT SAYING THEY WILL, I'M JUST ASKING WHAT THE RANGE OF THOSE MIGHT BE.
UH, I, SO THE CITY DOESN'T DO THE STUDY.
SO THE, THE, THE APPLICANT PAYS, UH, OKAY.
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POSSIBILITIES OF A TRAFFIC STUDY, NOT SAYING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT JUST OVERALL THINGS THAT ARE TYPICALLY RECOMMENDED FOR DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY.I'VE SEEN, UM, UH, RIGHT HAND ONLY TURN LANES.
I'VE SEEN TRAFFIC LIGHTS, I'VE SEEN STOP SIGNS, I'VE SEEN WIDENING OF A ROAD.
IT'S JUST, IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS SAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT WILL SAY FOR THIS AREA.
THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS APPEAR TO, TO NOT HAVE THE IMPACT.
SO THERE, THERE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE ANY, ANY CHANGES MADE.
BUT AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN FINAL FILE.
YEAH, IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
WELL, THERE YES, THERE WILL BE MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
IT'LL BE DISPERSED ESPECIALLY, CORRECT.
THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE MORE.
UM, JUST TO KEEP US ON TRACK ON THESE ISSUES, IF I CAN INTERJECT, I'D LIKE THE CITY'S ENGINEER TO COME UP AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE TWO ISSUES, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, START, THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP.
I CAN MAYBE ADDRESS, UH, START THERE AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT BRINGS ANYTHING ELSE UP.
ONE IS ON, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE, THERE'S A, A, B, C, D ALL THE WAY DOWN TO F BUT A BEING THE BEST, F THE WORST.
WHAT THAT'S BASED ON IS DELAY, INTERSECTION DELAY.
SO A LEVEL OF SERVICE A IS ANYWHERE WHEN YOU PULL UP TO AN INTERSECTION, IF YOU'RE THERE LESS THAN 10 OR 15 SECONDS, IT'S A, A SERVICE WE REQUIRE IN THE CITY A LEVEL OF SERVICE, C MINIMUM.
AND THAT'S WHAT MOST INFRASTRUCTURE IS DESIGNED FOR.
SO, AND A LEVEL OF SERVICE C BEING YOU PULL UP TO AN INTERSECTION, YOU SHOULDN'T BE THERE MORE THAN 30, 35, 40 SECONDS.
DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT INSTITUTES DEFINE IT DIFFERENTLY.
THE, THE ZONE, WHAT WE, WHAT TIAS AND TRAFFIC ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON IS, UH, WHAT I TYPICALLY USE, IT'S CALLED THE ITE MANUAL IS THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
AND IT, THEY'VE DONE STUDIES AFTER STUDIES THAT ESTIMATES HOW MANY TRIPS ARE GENERATED BY ONE DWELLING UNIT PER DAY.
AND SO THAT'S THE BACKGROUND, UH, THAT THEY START GATHERING THESE ESTIMATED TRIPS AND, UH, TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, A TRIP BEING ANYBODY EXITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE TRIP.
ANYBODY COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE TRIP.
WHAT THEIR PRELIMINARY STUDIES ARE SHOWING BASED ON THE ITE MANUAL IS, UM, DURING, YOU LOOK AT TWO SCENARIOS, YOUR AM PEAK HOUR AND YOUR PM PEAK HOUR, UH, WHEN EVERYBODY'S LEAVING IN THE MORNING, WHEN EVERYBODY'S COMING HOME IN THE EVENING, THOSE ARE YOUR, THAT'S YOUR HIGHEST TRAFFIC VOLUME, HIGHEST TRIP GENERATOR.
THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GENERATING AROUND 220 TO 225 TRIPS IN THOSE PEAK HOURS.
WHICH IT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY LEAVES AT ONCE.
NOT EVERY, BUT IT'S NOT EVENLY SPACED OUT.
BUT IF YOU AVERAGE IT OUT, IT'S ABOUT LESS, JUST A SLIGHTLY LESS THAN FOUR CARS PER MINUTE JUST TO HELP GIVE, TO TRY, TRY TO GET YOUR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, BUT, UH, IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IS NOT, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USED TO LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, 220 TRIPS IN AN HOUR IS NOT A HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IN INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
THAT'S WHY YOU'LL READ IN THE REPORT THAT IS SIGNIFICANT IN, NOW EVERYBODY'S DEFINITION OF SIGNIFICANT IS DIFFERENT, BUT IN TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING TERMS, WE DON'T EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
NOW WILL YOU SEE MORE CARS DRIVING DOWN VERNON CASTLE? YES.
UH, IF YOU LIVE THERE, THAT'S PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT.
UH, WELL, I, I'LL BE THE IDIOT ON THE AREA
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'CAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE KNOWS IT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.BUT IS THERE JUST ONE STREET IN AND OUT THAT'S GONNA BE HERE OR ARE THERE THREE? THERE'S THREE.
SO THAT 225 IS ALL TH THAT THAT'LL BE DIVIDED AMONGST THREE POINTS OF INGRESS EGRESS AND, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON ALL OF THOSE, CORRECT? YES.
THE, THE COUNTERS AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL, UH, STUDY NOT ONLY THOSE INTERSECTIONS THEY'RE CREATING, BUT ALSO ADJACENT AFFECTED INTERSECTIONS AND WHAT IMPACT, UH, THIS WILL HAVE ON THOSE OTHER INTER EXISTING INTERSECTIONS.
UM, ALFREDO, I'LL DEFER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TRAFFIC? 'CAUSE I THINK MY COACHING, UM, OKAY.
UM, SO VERNON CASTLE, I THINK, I CAN'T TELL IS IT THE ONLY THROUGH STREET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THE OTHER TWO ENTRANCES ARE JUST TURNOFFS FROM TIMBERLINE, NOT GOING DIRECTLY THROUGH ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? UH, NO.
THE NORTHERN MOST ACCESS, UH, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S TRINITY.
SO TRINITY VERNON CASTLE WILL BOTH BE FOUR-WAY INTERSECTIONS.
THE SOUTHERN MOST IS A T INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THEN ARE YOU ALREADY AWARE OF THE SPEEDING ISSUE ON VERNON CASTLE AVENUE? I AM NOT.
I LIVE ON VERNON CASTLE AVENUE
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO MITIGATE THAT? UH, FIRST I GUESS WE WOULD WANT TO COLLECT THE DATA.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE CASE, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY.
A LOT OF TIMES PERCEIVED SPEEDS ARE DIFFERENT FROM REALITY.
SO WHAT WE LIKE TO DO WHEN WE GET CALLS OR CONCERNS ABOUT SPEEDING IS WE, THE CITY HAS THEIR OWN COUNTERS.
UH, THAT COUNTS SPEED AND VOLUME.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT DATA AND SEE IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL ISSUE.
AND THEN IF THERE IS, OUR FIRST POINT OF CONTACT IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND WHAT WE CALL A REEDUCATION OF THE SPEED LIMIT, WE'LL ASK THEM TO, IS THAT WHERE THE POLICE SIT ON OUR STREET ALL DAY LONG AND PULL PEOPLE OVER? BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY ALREADY DO THAT.
THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE REEDUCATING PEOPLE ON THE SPEED LIMIT.
SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THE ISSUE ALREADY? I'M NOT SURE OF THAT.
THEY SIT ON OUR STREET ALL THE TIME.
THEN THEY, THEY MAY BE AWARE AND THERE'S ALWAYS THE SPEED LIMIT COUNTER FLASHING ON OUR STREET.
SO I GUESS THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT THEY COULD BE.
SO ARE SPEED BUMPS EVER A THING THAT COULD BE PUT IN AS A POSSIBILITY OR ARE SPEED BUMPS A THING OF THE PAST? WE HAVE A POLICY ON SPEED BUMPS DO TELL.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE, IT'S BASICALLY THE CITY IS NOT, IS NO LONGER PUTTING IN SPEED BUMPS.
THE BLOCK OF NEIGHBORS HAVE TO BRING IN A PETITION WITH, I BELIEVE 75% APPROVAL OF THE SPEED BUMPS.
75% OF THE, THE, THE, OF THAT BLOCK.
OF THAT PARTICULAR, IF YOU WANT A SPEED BUMP, SAY ON YOUR BLOCK.
75% OF THE HOMES ON YOUR BLOCK HAVE TO AGREE TO THE SPEED BUMPS.
BUT THE CITY WILL NOT PUT THEM IN? NO, IT'LL BE BORN BY THE COST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UH, AM I CORRECT THAT IF THE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT ONE BLOCK ACCOMPLISH THAT AND THEY BUILD THE, UM, THE SPEED BUMPS, THEN ANY, ANY KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SAY THE SPEED BUMPS DETERIORATE, THEN THE CITY PICKS UP THE TAB LATER AFTER THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE ONCE IT'S PUT IN BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GONNA BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN.
MR. GRABBER, UM, TO CONTINUE PIGGYBACKING ON THE SAME, UM, WITH THE TIA STUDIES AND ALL THAT, WOULD THOSE POTENTIALLY BE,
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UM, DONE AGAIN, ONCE THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ARE ACTUALLY PUT INTO PLACE AND DEVELOPED AND THERE IS STARTING TO BE THE ADDITIONAL OR THESE JUST PROJECTED, UM, ESTIMATED ON WHAT IS LIKELY THE LATTER? YES.IT'S, IT'S THE PROJECTED OF WHAT IS ANTICIPATED.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND VERIFY OR, OR, OR PROVE UP, I GUESS WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE STUDY HAS SHOWN.
UM, LET ME ASK YOU, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ONE TEEN INTERSECTION.
I ASSUME THAT THAT'S GONNA BE WHERE, UM, THE FIRST ENTRANCE FROM RIO GRANDE INTO THE 49 LOTS THAT ARE BEING FIRST DEVELOPED.
UH, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, OR IF THERE IS A, A TRAFFIC COUNT OCCURRING OR WILL OCCUR FROM RIO GRANDE DOWN TO PHASE THREE? AND THE REASON I POSE THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE I 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE THAT T INTERSECTION IS GONNA BE THE FIRST ROAD TO BE DEVELOPED, MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO, SO IN THE, IN THE BEGINNING, I ASSUMED THAT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE COMING IN DOWN RIO GRANDE SINCE THE, THE ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE RIGHT AFTER THAT TWO STORY HOME RIGHT THERE WHERE THE, THE COW PASTURE STARTS.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THEY'RE DOING A TRAFFIC COUNT THERE, IF THEY'RE DOING A TRAFFIC COUNT OR WILL ON RIO GRANDE? YES.
RIGHT BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE.
UH, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE COUNTERS BEFORE THE, SAY THE EX, THE FIRST LEFT, THE EXISTING LEFT, WHICH WOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, I HAVEN'T, I CAN'T CONFIRM WHERE THEIR COUNTERS ARE AT THIS POINT.
I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT UNTIL I'VE HAD A CHANCE.
THE CITY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO REVIEW IT, OBVIOUSLY.
AND, UH, ANY DEFICIENCIES THEY'LL BE MADE AWARE OF, WE'LL GET A DRAFT AND UH, I WILL GO THROUGH IT AND ANY DEFIC DEFICIENCIES WILL BE SENT BACK.
IF THEY NEED TO DO MORE COUNTS, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE FAIR ENOUGH.
ONCE WE HAVE THE FINAL REPORT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. ELLISON? YEAH, ONE MORE.
UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR. LACROIX.
HOW DO, HOW DOES ONE GO ABOUT, UH, REMOVING AN AREA, UH, FROM A FEMA FLOODPLAIN? LIKE WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF THAT? HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK TO QUOTE DOUG EARLIER MATH, UM,
SO THE, UM, TO NOT GET TOO TECHNICAL, THIS AREA IS THE, THE, IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE, THE RED AND BLUE, UM, EXHIBIT THAT DOUG HAD EARLIER TODAY SHOWING THE, THE FLOODPLAIN THAT'S IN THERE, THE MAIN FLOODWAY, THE CONVEYANCE, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TRINITY RIVER IN THIS AREA IS WHAT WILL FLOOD IN IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENTS.
SO WE'VE JUST DOWNSTREAM OF LAKE BENBROOK THERE, UM, IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT, YOU KNOW, THE WATER SOURCE WILL RISE UP.
WHAT'S OCCURRING IN THE, THE PROJECT AREA AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IS, IS CONSIDERED BACKWATER.
SO YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE CONVEYANCE.
UM, AND, AND SO IT'S, IT'S CALLED AN INEFFECTIVE FLOW AREA WITHIN THE HYDRAULIC MODELS THAT WE HAVE.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RECLAIMING THAT BY PLACING FILL IN THOSE AREAS TO RAISE IT UP AND OUT.
BUT SINCE IT'S A BACKWATER EFFECT, IT'S NOT GONNA RAISE THE SURROUNDING WATER SURFACE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS UPSTREAM OR DOWNSTREAM.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I CAN GO INTO, YOU KNOW, MORE DETAIL.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WONDERING IS WHETHER THAT RAISING UP, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THIS IS PART OF THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT MAYBE IF YOU CAN JUST COMMENT ON IT, YOU KNOW, IS EXPECTED TO, TO, TO FUNNEL OR MOVE THAT WATER, UM, TOWARDS ANY OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULDN'T PURPOSELY BE DOING THAT, BUT YOU SPEAK AS TO THAT.
CERTAINLY PART OF THE REVIEW RIGHT NOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP, THE WATER'S ACTUALLY TRAVELING FROM, FROM RIGHT TO LEFT HERE.
IT'S NOT TRAVELING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT, IT NATURALLY DRAINS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE TRINITY RIVER, BUT WHAT'S CAUSING THE FLOODPLAIN IS THE TRINITY RIVER BACKING UP AND GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO BY US COMING IN AND OPENING UP THE HOA AREAS, YOU SAW THIS LONG LINEAR CHANNEL THERE THAT'S CURRENTLY A, A 48 INCH STORM DRAIN COMING DOWN NEAR BRAZOS DRIVE DISCHARGES INTO AN EXISTING OPEN CHANNEL.
WE'LL BE ACTUALLY OPENING THAT CHANNEL UP, WIDENING IT, IMPROVING IT, UM, INCREASING THE SLOPE A LITTLE BIT TO HELP FUNNEL THAT DRAINAGE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO EVEN THOUGH IN A A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE,
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YOU MIGHT SEE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT IN SOME OF THE SMALLER, YOU KNOW, MORE FREQUENT EVENTS BECAUSE WE'RE IMPROVING THAT CHANNEL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE TRINITY.IT SAME, SAME SCENARIO AT NEAR VERNON CASTLE WHERE THERE'S A 54 INCH THAT JUST DUMPS INTO OPEN FIELD RIGHT NOW, DOESN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.
WE'RE GIVING IT A PLACE TO GO GETTING IT DRAINED IN, IN AND OUT OF THERE, UM, TO CONVEY THAT WATER BACK TOWARDS THE TRINITY.
BY FILLING UP AROUND THESE AREAS AND THE HOA OPEN SPACES HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY LOCATED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE COMING TO OUR SITE, GET IT TO OUR SITE AND INTO THE TRINITY, THAT, THANK YOU.
JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP, UH, FROM THAT TOPIC, UM, AND I REALIZE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, BUT I, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, SO I'M WONDERING IF BY HAVING THE WATER DRAIN TOWARD THE RIVER OR THE CLEAR FORT, UM, WILL THAT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, UM, HOMES THAT ARE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN RIGHT NOW THAT ARE THE EXISTING HOMES? I MEAN, I REALIZE THERE'S GONNA BE MORE CONCRETE AS WELL, SO YOU GOTTA TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT JUST BALANCES WHERE IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT'S GONNA IMPACT, UH, THE EXISTING HOMES IN A POSITIVE WAY.
AND THAT'S DUE TO THE, THE BACK WATER EFFECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE RAISING OUR SITE OUT OF THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BACK WATER COMING, YOU KNOW, FLOWING FROM THE TRINITY BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WON'T BE PULLING ANY OF THE OTHER LOTS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE MAY BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, IN THE LOWER, MORE FREQUENT STORMS. UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MORE CONCRETE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TYPICALLY ON A, ON A DRAINAGE STUDY, WE WILL SEE, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU GO FROM A, A VACANT FIELD OPEN FIELD TO ADDING HOMES AND ROOFTOPS AND, AND STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT, IT DOES INCREASE RUNOFF.
HOWEVER, THE, IT, IT'S A COINCIDENTAL TIMING.
SO OUR WATER FROM OUR RUNOFF, UH, OUR SITE IS GONNA GET INTO THAT RIVER AND BE DOWNSTREAM LONG BEFORE THE TRINITY ACTUALLY PEAKS AND, AND BACKS UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE WON'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON, ON THE WATER SURFACE IN THE TRINITY RIVER NOR, UM, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
FOR THE CITY'S ENGINEER ON THIS POINT, UM, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED WITH REGARD TO THE DRAINAGE AND THE FLOOD BANK, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT THEY CANNOT SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLY WITH OUR ORDINANCES WITH REGARD TO THOSE TWO ISSUES, CORRECT.
AT THIS PRELIMINARY LEVEL IT DOES NOT APPEAR.
AND YOU'LL STILL BE LOOKING, HAVE A REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE FINAL PLAT.
I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO THIS FAR, THEY CHECK THE BOXES WITH REGARD TO OUR ORDINANCES IN YOUR VIEW, UM, WITH WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THESE TWO AREAS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND JUST, UH, TO REEMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, NOT ONLY IS IT GONNA GO THROUGH CITY OF BENBROOK REVIEW, IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH CITY OF FORT WORTH REVIEW, AND THEN THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES WILL GO THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FEMA REVIEW.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF EYES THAT HAVE REALLY NO RELATION ON THIS.
UH, SO FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN PRELIMINARY OR COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY ARE, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE NECESSARY ORDINANCES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION, MS. RODRIGUEZ? THANKS.
CAN YOU SPEAK ON THE IMPACT, EITHER OF Y'ALL, UM, ABOUT SCHOOLS AND ADDING MORE POSSIBLY KIDS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE ON OUR SCHOOLS WOULD LOOK LIKE?
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON BENBROOK SCHOOLS AT THIS TIME.
UM, I I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT.
I CAN PROBABLY AT LEAST SAY SOMETHING.
UH, AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, WHENEVER A ZONING CASE COMES IN OR A NEW RESIDENTIAL PLAT, ANYTIME WE SEE AN INCREASE IN HOMES, WE IMMEDIATELY, BY WE, I MEAN CAROLINE IMMEDIATELY, UH, EMAILS THE FORT WORTH, ISD SENDS THEM THE PLANS, UH, GIVES 'EM A LITTLE SUMMARY OF WHAT'S GOING ON JUST IN CASE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS SAY.
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AND, UH, WE LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE INCREASE IS GOING TO BE.UM, THIS IS ALREADY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, AND I I, AND WE'RE NOT PART OF THE ISD, THEY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE CALCULATIONS FOR WHAT THE, THE COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA SHOULD BE.
AND SO THEY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY ACCOMMODATED FOR IT, BUT JUST IN CASE WE STILL SEND THAT OUT TO THEM.
AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENT, UH, FROM THE FORT WORTH ISD, SO IN OUR ASSUMPTION THAT THEY, THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH AND ALL OF THIS, UM, ALL THE HOUSES THAT WILL BE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GOING TO BE IN BENBROOK PROPER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THIS IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
MR. HENDER ROCKER, DID YOU HAVE, GO AHEAD.
UH, I WAS JUST GONNA MAYBE ADD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, WHEN WE HAVE AN ACTUAL, UH, CASE COME BEFORE US, WHEN WE NOTIFY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE ACTUALLY PERIODICALLY MEET WITH, UH, SCHOOL OFFICIALS AND TALK ABOUT OUR LONG RANGE PLANS.
AND I KNOW WE WOUND UP DOING THE 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION WITH, UH, SCHOOL OFFICIALS ABOUT WHAT, UH, WE PERCEIVED WOULD WIND UP BEING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS PART OF THAT WAS CONVERSATION.
SO, UH, EVERYTHING THAT IS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THOSE CON CONVERSATIONS AND REALLY PART OF THEIR LONG-TERM PLANNING IN TERMS OF SCHOOL NEEDS, UH, IN OUR AREA.
SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
ROKER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION? MS. RODRIGUEZ, CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT TIMELINE FOR THE PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR? I, I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO, UH, TOWARDS PHASE THREE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, UH, STILL OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS NOW, PRELIMINARY PLAT BEING THE FIRST STEP, UM, PART OF THAT APPROVAL PROCESS IS THE FEMA APPROVAL THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THAT CAN BE A LENGTHY PROCESS.
SO ONCE WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT, AND THAT'S JUST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, ONCE WE KIND OF HAVE THOSE ANSWERS AND APPROVALS IN PLACE, THEN WE WILL OFFICIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH FINAL PLAT, FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR PHASE THREE.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW, HOW WELL THAT THAT GOES WOULD GIVE US A BETTER ANSWER ON, ON PHASE FOUR, BUT I THAT MAY BE UP TO, DO YOU HAVE A GOOD TIMELINE ON PHASE FOUR? WELL, I MEAN, WE WOULD, CAN I, I'M SORRY.
PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU COULD STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE FIRST PHASE WE'D LIKE TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WITH CURRENT CONSTRUCTION TIME WITH WHAT JOE'S SAYING ON FEMA COULD BE A SIX MONTH PROCESS.
UM, BUT ONCE WE GET APPROVED PLANS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING ABOUT 12 MONTHS BEFORE WE START GOING VERTICAL AND START BUILDING HOUSES UM, AND THEN IT DEPENDS ON THE ABSORPTIONS ON IT, BUT, UH, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF WE WOULD START THE NEXT PHASE.
MR. WALLACE, I THINK I HAVE JUST A COUPLE FINAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, IF, IF WE WERE TO DENY THE PLAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT THE BUILDER CANNOT MEET.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.
THE WAY STATE LAW IS WRITTEN IS IF, UH, YOU CAN EITHER APPROVE, YOU CAN CONDITIONALLY APPROVE OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE.
AND WHEN YOU CONDITIONALLY APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DEVELOPER A LIST OF CITED INSTANCES OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEIR APPLICATION, BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO REAPPLY, UM, AND MEET THOSE, UH, AND ONLY THOSE.
SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WASN'T LISTED ON THE SHEET, AND THEN THE NEXT TIME THEY COME THROUGH, YOU SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA DENY YOU FOR THIS.
YOU, YOU DON'T GET A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.
AND SO, SPECIFICALLY ON THIS, THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, DID STAFF FIND ANY INSTANCES WHERE THEY CANNOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ORDINANCE OR, OR A VIOLATION OF ONE OF OUR ORDINANCES? I DID NOT FIND ANYTHING THAT WOULD, THAT THEY COULD NOT MEET.
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UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY, AS THE, THE APPLICANT STATED THEY HAD TWO WAIVER REQUESTS, UH, TO PROVIDE FOR A LITTLE BETTER FLOW THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONNECTIVITY.UM, BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THEIR PRELIMINARY PLANS THAT WOULD STATE THAT THEY CANNOT MEET OUR ORDINANCES.
AND IF WE DENIED THIS WITHOUT SOME JUSTIFICATION, WHAT'S THE LIKELY OUTCOME? UH, BASED ON STATE LAW? UH, ANY VIOLATION OF STATE LAW, UH, CAN BE, UM, A SUIT CAN BE PURSUED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
AND JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT ALSO MEETS THE CRITERIA ON MEETING THE STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL.
I WENT THROUGH A FEW OF THEM DURING THE, ABOUT DENSITIES.
UM, ONE THAT THEY MENTIONED, AND I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT ANOTHER ONE WAS WE DID ADOPT A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL SYSTEM, UH, MAP WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THE GOAL OF THE CITY WAS TO CONNECT TO THE TRINITY TRAIL SYSTEM.
AND THE, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, INDICATED THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
AND WE EVEN RECEIVED A FORT, UH, LETTER FROM FORT WORTH STATING THAT THEY SUPPORTED THAT AND THEY'RE GONNA HELP THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL, SINCE IT IS FORT WORTH TRAIL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, MS. RODRIGUEZ? THANKS.
UM, CAN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FILL IN, I GUESS, THE WELLS OR DRILLING STUFF THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON THAT LAND? THE, THE EXISTING GAS WELL SITE WILL BE REDUCED IN SIZE, AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE OF THE HOA OPEN SPACE AREAS.
UM, THERE'S AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GAS COMPANY THAT'S GONNA REMAIN THERE, BUT, BUT SHRINK IN SIZE, THE PRESENTATION FROM THE STREET, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE HOUSES IN FRONT OF IT WITH SCREENING FENCES BEHIND, UM, WILL HAVE A, AN ENTRANCE OFF OF ONE OF THE SIDE STREETS INTO THE GAS WELL, SO THEY CAN STILL MAINTAIN THEIR ENTRANCE, BUT AT THIS POINT, THE GAS WELLS REMAINING THERE.
SO THEY'LL CONTINUE TO USE THE, THE WELLS? YES.
YEAH, THE, THE FRACK POND THAT'S THERE, THE LARGE EMBANKMENT WILL GO AWAY, AND THEN THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE GAS WELL SITE WILL SHRINK, UH, BUT IT WILL STAY THERE.
UM, ARE Y'ALL PLANNING TO PUT A PLAYGROUND AT ALL IN LIKE A LITTLE POCKET PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IT, IT'S CERTAINLY A POTENTIAL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME OF THESE OPEN SPACES DURING HEAVY RAIN EVENTS, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE WATER FLOWING THROUGH THEM.
SO WE CERTAINLY WANNA TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITH ANY PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND KEEP, KEEP THE KIDDOS AWAY FROM THAT TYPE OF OPEN FLOW IS, I DIDN'T, PROBABLY NOT, BUT IS THERE ANY GREEN OR OPEN SPACE THAT WILL BE APART FROM THE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS? I, I THINK IT'S MORE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT MUST BE GOING THROUGH THE OPEN SPACES.
SO AS, AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THAT TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE IT, IF YOU WILL.
THE, THE ONE FURTHEST TO THE NORTH, AS SCOTT HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, IF WE CAN GET THE PERMITTING IN PLACE TO HAVE A, WELL, THERE'LL BE A RETENTION COMPONENT IN THERE WITH A, A FOUNTAIN, UH, MAY HAVE A, A SIDEWALK KIND OF AROUND THE TOP OF IT.
UH, THE, THE MIDDLE KIND OF LARGEST AREA.
WE WILL HAVE SOME OPEN CHANNELS THROUGH THERE, BUT THAT WILL, WE'RE ANTICIPATING SOME WALKING PATHS.
SOME PARK BENCHES, MAYBE A PAVILION OR TWO IN THERE.
UM, THE LONG LINEAR ONE WILL BE THE, WE'LL HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT CONNECTS TO THE TRINITY TRAILS, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER GREEN SPACE KIND OF ALONG, YOU KNOW, LINEAR GREEN SPACE, UM, WITH THE OPEN CHANNEL TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT STORM DRAIN COMING INTO THE SYSTEM.
WILL YOU TALK MORE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND LIKE WHERE THOSE POINTS WILL BE ACCESSED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THAT WILL KIND OF LOOK LIKE? CERTAINLY.
I THINK DOUG'S GONNA TO PULL UP A, AN EXHIBIT HERE AS, AS PART OF PHASE ONE.
YOU SEE THE LONG LINEAR CONNECTION THAT GOES FROM TIMBERLINE DRIVE OUT TO THE RIVER.
UH, THE TRAIL SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY THERE.
IT GOES OVER THE OPEN CHANNEL WITH A, A SMALL BRIDGE.
WE'LL BE CONNECTING ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A WALKING PATH FROM TIMBERLINE DRIVE THROUGH THE HOA OPEN SPACE, KIND OF FOLLOWING THE, THE CHANNEL THAT'S THERE.
WE'LL HAVE A, A SIDEWALK THAT FOLLOWS THAT CHANNEL AND CONNECTS AT THE LOCATION OF, UH, OH.
THERE'LL BE ONE, ONE ACCESS POINT TO THE TRAILS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, THERE'S ONE.
THERE'S ONE ON THE SOUTH AS WELL.
WE'LL HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT GOES THROUGH RIGHT THERE AS WELL.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S MUCH OF
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A CONCERN AS IT WAS.UM, AND MAYBE THE MEDIA HAS STOPPED, UH, TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, I KNOW WITH THE FRACKING IT INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY CREATING SOME VOIDS UNDERGROUND.
IS THERE ANY, ANY LEGITIMACY TO SOME CONCERN ABOUT FOUNDATION PROBLEMS ON EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT THERE? NOT, NOT THAT WE FORESEE MOST OF THAT FRACKING IS, IS SO, SO FAR BELOW GREAT.
IN ADDITION, AS PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN RECLAMATION, WE'RE ACTUALLY RAISING THIS SITE UP BY SEVERAL FEET IN SOME AREAS.
YOU COME IN COMPACT, THAT DIRT IN PLACE, ADD MORE DIRT ON TOP OF IT, COMPACT THAT IN PLACE.
SO YOU HAVE A NICE SOLID FOUNDATION FOR THOSE BUILDINGS.
MR. ELLISON, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE TERM OF THAT LEASE, THAT OIL AND GAS LEASE FOR THAT WELL SITE? HOW LONG THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BUILT, HOW LONG THAT WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT? DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS BENNETT HOWELL.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND I CARRY MANY HATS,
AND, UH, ONE OF 'EM IS THE GAS WELL.
AND THAT THOSE GAS, THE GAS WELL LEASE IS PERPETUAL AND THE WELLS THEMSELVES STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW ONCE THOSE WELLS ARE CLOSED TO BE DEVELOPED ABOVE IT.
SO THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN OPEN SPACE THERE.
UH, AS FAR AS THE FRACK POND AND EVERYTHING, THOSE WILL BE, THAT WILL BE PROPERLY CLOSED UNDER STATE WALL.
AND THE CITY WILL REQUIRE AN ENGINEERED FOUNDATIONS TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
SO ANY HOMES BUILT OVER IN THOSE AREAS WILL, UH, WE'LL HAVE A PROPER, UH, FOUNDATION IN THOSE AREAS.
THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, SO I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO MANY OF Y'ALL BEFORE ON THAT, AND YOU'RE TALK CONCERNED WITH IF THEY'RE RAISING THE LAND, WHERE'S THE WATER GONNA GO? WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ADDING THOSE DETENTION PONDS AND THEY'RE WIDEN THEIR CHANNEL FOR ANY, UH, THE SITE HAS TO BE WHAT'S CALLED BALANCED.
IF THEY ADD ONE SHOVEL OF DIRT, THEY GOTTA TAKE A SHOVEL OUT.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A WIDER CHANNEL IN THE DETENTION PONDS THAT WILL TAKE, TAKE CARE OF THE WATER THAT'S GENERATED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, THEY WON'T BE PUSHING ANY WATER ONTO THE SUBDIVISION.
AS FAR AS TRAFFIC ON BURNING CASTLE, I KNOW IT, UH, SPEEDING IS A CONCERN.
WE HAVE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES ALONG BURNING CASTLE AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC DOES NOT SPEED.
THERE ALWAYS IS, BUT IT'S NOT AS HIGH AS MOST PEOPLE THINK.
AND, UH, I CAN SHOW SHOW YOU THOSE REPORTS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THE TRINITY TRAILS ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO THE TRAILS THERE.
'CAUSE THE TRAIL ABOUT WHERE THE GAS WELL IS STARTS DIVERTING OVER MORE INTO FORT WORTH AND ACROSS THE CREEK.
AND SO ALL THE CONNECTIONS ARE GONNA BE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE, UH, SUBDIVISION.
UH, MR. ELLISON, ANY FURTHER? NO, THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION, MR. RODRIGUEZ? OKAY, THIS IS MY LAST ONE, I PROMISE.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THE APPROXIMATE COST OF THE HOMES WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 500,000 AND UP.
IS THAT SET IN STONE OR HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT AREA? UH, WELL, AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS SUBDIVISION AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT ONES, A DIFFICULT SITE.
UM, SO THE, WITH THE COST OF THESE LOTS AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE IN, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD.
UM, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE'S SEEN IN ON THE NEWS HOW COST OF BUILDING MATERIALS, LUMBER, EVERYTHING ELSE JUST KEEPS GOING UP.
UM, SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, OUR, OUR COST IN THIS WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND 500 IF, IF THINGS START COMING DOWN, YEAH, WE'LL TRY TO GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABLE.
BUT AGAIN, THIS SITE'S JUST A, IT'S A DIFFICULT ONE, SO COST, COST IS WHERE IT IS.
UH,
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AESTHETICS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SET ON THE ELEVATIONS AND THE PICTURES THAT I SHOWED YOU, THAT'S, THAT'S ON ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.SO I HAVE TWO ARCHITECTS ON STAFF.
THESE, THIS IS A 70 FOOT WIDE PRODUCT, SO WE'LL BE DESIGNING SOME HOUSES THAT WILL GO SPECIFICALLY FOR TRINITY ESTATES.
SO, SO THEY'LL KIND OF, WELL, THEY KIND OF MIRROR SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL OLDER HOMES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
YEAH, I THINK THE MAJORITY PROBABLY ARE GONNA BE 2,600 SQUARE FEET, SINGLE STORY.
UM, I THINK THAT KIND OF LENDS, LENDS FOR THIS AREA.
SO I, I THINK WE WANNA MAKE THIS A BRIGHT SPOT AND, UH, REALLY A SHOW PLACE, UM, FOR, FOR OUR PRODUCT AND, AND FOR THE CITY.
MR. SANDLIN, UH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UH, BUILDING, UH, ALL THOSE LOTS WILL BE SANDLIN HOMES? YES.
I'M NOT PLANNING ON SELLING, ON SELLING ANY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION? BY ARE YOUR SILENCE? I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, IF GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SEATS.
AND, UH, NOW I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, OPEN THE, UH, MEETING TO THE, UH, PUBLIC.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO, UH, UH, SAY THAT GIVEN THE NUMBER OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY, IF YOU CAN KIND OF, IF YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN COVERED BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS, MEANING THE DIFFERENT, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING UP TO THE PODIUM, THEN YOU MIGHT WANNA RESERVE YOUR TIME, UM, FROM COMING UP HERE.
UN UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY ANYBODY ELSE, UH, THEN PLEASE, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME UP HERE AND, UM, AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY COMING ARE COMING UP HERE, I'D LIKE TO, UM, KIND OF LIMIT THE TIMEFRAME TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES OR SO.
UM, AND, UH, AND WE'LL START OFF WITH, FIRST OF ALL, ARE THERE ANY HERE TODAY THAT ARE FOR THE SITE OR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? IF, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, COME UP, UH, TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THAT ADDRESS I JUST FOR OH, OKAY.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT, THAT'S FOR IT, THAT'S INTERESTED IN COMING UP AND, AND MAKING ANY KIND OF COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, COME UP TO THE PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE, BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
UM, I WILL BE WANTING TO WRITE DOWN EVERYONE'S NAME AND ADDRESS.
SO IF YOU COULD PLA PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME SLOWLY AND YOUR ADDRESS SLOWLY, AND IF YOUR NAME MIGHT BE A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE, IF YOU COULD SPELL IT TOO, SO THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO KEEP INTERRUPTING PEOPLE.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
MY NAME IS CHARLES MARINO, LAST NAME M-A-R-I-N-O.
I'M THE COUSIN OF DAN MARINO,
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 1993.
UM, TO FOLLOW MISS RODRIGUEZ'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC DOWN VERN, UH, VERNON CASTLE, THERE IS TRAFFIC CONCERNS ALSO DOWN, UH, TRINITY DRIVE, WHICH, WHICH WHERE WE LIVE, AS WELL AS DOWN, UH, RIO AND, UH, TIMBERLINE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST HER CONCERN, IT'S OUR CONCERN TOO ON OUR STREETS.
WE DID NOTICE THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC RECORDING DEVICES OUT THERE FOR A FEW DAYS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TYPICAL JUST FOR A FEW DAYS OR IF IT'S A WIDEN, UH, A WIDEN TIME THAT THEY ACTUALLY GET MORE INFORMATION FOR THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE TRAFFIC.
WITH REGARD TO WATER AND, UH, WATER RUNOFF.
I THINK MR. WALLACE WAS TALKING ABOUT ADVERSE EFFECTS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT DURING PERIODS OF HEAVY RAINFALL THAT UM, THERE IS, UH, FLOODING DOWN THE BOTTOM LINE, UH, THE BOTTOM OF TRINITY DRIVE, AS WELL AS TIMBERLINE, THERE IS FLOODING IN THAT AREA ENOUGH TO BACK UP THE SEWAGE.
AND I THINK SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD EVEN SEWAGE PROBLEMS WHEN THERE'S HEAVY RAINFALL.
SO THE QUESTION IS NOT ONLY REGARDING THAT, BUT ALSO OUR HOUSE IS NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
IT DOES BORDER THE FLOOD PLAIN.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE GRADING PROCESS DOESN'T EITHER PULL US INTO THE FLOODPLAIN OR OUR NEIGHBORS MORE INTO THE FLOODPLAIN THAT, THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT, THAT ARE FURTHER DOWN TRINITY DRIVE.
I'M NOT AGAINST, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH THESE CONCERNS, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
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ADDRESSED.IS THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT'S FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WANTING TO SPEAK? IF SO, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YEAH, MY NAME IS RONALD PALMER.
I LIVE AT 1725 BRIAR RUN, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS DOES BENBROOK HAVE THE EXCESS CAPACITY OF WATER, SEWER, ELECTRIC, TO KEEP ADDING ALL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT? OKAY.
UM, WE WILL NOT BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
IT'S MORE STATING YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, E ESSENTIALLY HOW THIS PROCESS WILL WORK IS THE CONCERNS WILL, WILL BE RAISED, QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AFTER EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN AND RESPOND TO, TO ANYTHING THEY HEARD.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ANSWERED, UH, STAFF IS AVAILABLE, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TO, TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAD SOME OTHERS, BUT THEY WERE ALL ANSWERED DURING THE PRESENTATION, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS SOME QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I AM, I'M RENEE FU, W-E-I-N-F-U-S-S-I 1225 CONCHO OF, LIVED IN TRINITY ESTATES, UH, SINCE 1993.
MY CONCERN IS, IS ALSO THE TRAFFIC.
UH, AGAIN, NOT DISRESPECT TO MS. RODRIGUEZ, BUT, UH, TRINITY DRIVE IS, UH, CROWDED ALREADY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
PARKING ON THE STREETS AND GETTING OUT IS A DIFFICULT, RIO GRAND IS MUCH EASIER TO GET OUT OF.
BUT THE TRAFFIC COMING, UH, INTO WINCO, I THINK FROM THE SUBDIVISIONS FURTHER DOWN, 3 77 HAS, HAS GOTTEN, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF FRUSTRATION RIGHT THERE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS ALSO A WALL.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO ME IT'S A LITTLE BIT DISCONCERTING THAT THERE'S GONNA NOW BE A WALL, UH, IN INSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF, UH, UM, OKAY.
NOT A GREAT LOOKING GREEN PASTURE, BUT AT LEAST A PASTOR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO WALK MY DOG EVERY NIGHT PAST THIS STONE WALL OF WHAT COULD BE LITTLE MCMANSIONS.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE MY BIG CONCERNS.
I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT ANY RAISING OF THEIR LAND WOULD IMPACT ME ON CONCHO.
BUT, BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? AND I WILL GIVE THOSE THAT ARE, THOSE THAT ARE AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO YOU AS WELL.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR IT, IF THEY COULD STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SANDRA RENFRO AND I LIVE AT 1248 SOUTH TIMBERLINE.
AND THOSE THREE, UH, INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ONE OF 'EM IS NOT AN INTERSECTION.
IT COMES INTO MY HOUSE RIGHT THERE AT 1240.
I'VE ALREADY SPOKE, SPOKEN TO DOUG ABOUT IT, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND I'M OLDER THAN A LOT OF Y'ALL PEOPLE HERE.
AND HE SAID, OH, NOBODY WOULD MISS THE BREAK AND RUN INTO YOUR HOUSE.
BUT THINGS HAPPEN AND I KNOW THAT, AND I'M GONNA FIGHT THAT STREET RIGHT THERE COMING INTO MY HOUSE.
DO YOU REALIZE THAT IF WE HAVE 199 HOMES AND DOUG SAID THERE WILL ONLY BE 50 ON MY SIDE, YOU GOT TWO CARS PLUS HOUSE, RIGHT? MAYBE THREE.
AND I DON'T WANT THAT COMING INTO MY HOUSE DAY AND NIGHT.
AND IF THEY, IF THEY MISS THEIR BREAK, 'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO COME OUT OF THAT ROAD, NOT THE TRINITY OF VERNON CASTLE, THE OTHER ONE.
THEY HAVE TO COME OUT OF THAT ROAD, PUT ON THE, THEY GOTTA GO LEFT OR GO RIGHT WHEN THEY COME HOME, THEY'VE GOTTA STOP AND TURN IN.
I'LL NEVER GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
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THAT.I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOOD BECAUSE I'M IN THE FLOODPLAIN THERE.
SO WHEN I HAD A BIG DOG, I USED TO WALK DOWN BY THE RIVER AND I'VE SEEN THAT SIDEWALK BE OVERFLOWN WITH WATER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S FLOODED DOWN THERE.
SO IF THEY'RE GONNA MOVE IT THAT WAY, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? WIDEN THE RIVER, I DON'T KNOW, COULD COME OVER TO MY HOUSE.
AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE FLOOD.
I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE WHEN MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY BECAUSE I LOVED THAT AREA.
IN FACT, I BOUGHT A TREE FROM THE GUY THAT OWNED THAT PROPERTY WHO LIVES IN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE MY TREE CAME FROM RIGHT THERE.
BUT, AND I KNOW I CAN'T STOP PROGRESS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT TO THE END OF MY, AS LONG AS I LIVE, I WILL FIGHT THAT ROAD COMING STRAIGHT INTO MY HOUSE.
I MEAN, IT IS STRAIGHT INTO MY HOUSE.
NOW, IF YOU GO DOWN THREE HOUSES, THERE IS A STREET THERE THEY COULD DO.
I'M, I'M GONNA FIGHT THAT STREET COMING INTO MY HOUSE, AND THEN I'M GONNA ORDER ONE OF THOSE ORANGE THINGS YOU HAVE OUT THERE, THOSE CONCRETE, AND I'M GONNA PUT THAT IN MY, IN MY YARD.
THEN MY VALUE OF MY HOUSE WILL GO DOWN.
SO I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED AND I AM GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT STREET THERE, I WON'T FIGHT THE PROJECT.
'CAUSE I REALIZE PROGRESS IS PROGRESS AND BENBROOK WANTS THE MONEY.
BUT I AM GONNA FIGHT THAT STREET.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
UH, IN THAT CASE, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, UH, MOVE IT OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
UH, ANYBODY THAT'S AGAINST IT, IF THEY COULD PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
STEVE SMITH, 1224 TRINITY DRIVE.
UM, I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST IT.
I GUESS I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.
UH, WHEN I CAME IN, I WAS PRETTY AGAINST IT UNTIL I HEARD MR. SANDLIN TALK.
UM, I THINK THE CITY'S PRETTY MUCH FOR IT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING.
AND I'D LIKE, I LIKE WHAT HE'S HAD TO SAY ABOUT NOT PARTING IT OUT.
YOU KNOW, IF THAT KEEPS TRUE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SELL IT TO OTHER BUILDERS THAT COME IN AND, AND DO THINGS WITH IT.
I DON'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN THERE.
I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
MY TAXES ARE GONNA GO UP EITHER WAY, BUT I DON'T WANT CRIME COMING IN.
I DON'T WANT AN APARTMENT DOWN THERE.
SO YOU COMING IN, WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED THE LOOK AND EVERYTHING? UM, I LIKE THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THE CITY, IF WE HAVE THE RESOURCES, IF WE HAVE THE LITTLE STRIPS AND THINGS TO PUT OUT, WHY WE'RE NOT INDEPENDENTLY DOING THAT.
UM, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT MONEY TO PUT ON THE FIREWORK SHOW EVERY YEAR DOWN AT THE PARK.
WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RAISE, RAISING IN THE TAX DOLLARS TO THROW IT OUT AND DO OUR OWN INDEPENDENT STUDY JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME.
UM, I'M NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT MAY, YOU KNOW, MAKE, IF WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE.
WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MR. SANDLIN, I LIKE, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING IS IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IF, IF THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
I JUST WANT THE CITY TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE INDEPENDENTLY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC AND OTHER THINGS, IF WE HAVE THE MEANS TO DO IT, THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT TO COMPARE IT TO THE NOTES OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT, UM, COMING IN.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.
ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
THE LAST NAME IS ZBA, Z-S-A-M-B-O-K.
I LIVE AT 1200 VERNON CASTLE AVENUE.
I'M AT THE VERY TOP OF THE HILL ON VERNON CASTLE.
SO I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT.
I'M AT THE VERY TOP OF THE HILL.
THERE ARE CONCERNS, UM, ANYTIME WE HAVE A CAR PARKED OUTSIDE OF OUR HOUSE, PEOPLE DO COME OVER ON OCCASION AND PARK THERE.
UM, THERE'S ISSUES SEEN UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
SO, UM, I DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO THE SPEED LIMIT DOWN THE STREET.
SO I ALSO ECHO ALL OF THE CONCERNS FROM ALL THE STREETS OF THE TRAFFIC.
BUT, UM, AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE CITY CONSIDERING NOT HAVING, UH, A BLOCK OR NEIGHBORHOOD MAINTAIN AND PUT IN AND APPROVE A SPEED BUMP OR
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JUST MAINTAINING TRAFFIC NOT ONLY ON OUR STREET, BUT ANY STREET THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT ISSUE.UM, MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC OF THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.
UM, THE DIRT WHO CLEANS UP THE STREET AS THE DIRT IS TRACKED IN AND OUT DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IS THERE ONE STREET THAT THE, UH, VEHICLES WILL BE GOING UP AND DOWN? WILL THEY SOMEHOW BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE DIFFERENT STREETS IN AND OUT, UM, OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE? UM, WE KNOW WE SEE A LOT OF INCREASE WHENEVER THEY'RE DRILLING DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.
VERNON CASTLE, WE KNOW, UM, WAS APPROVED FOR THE LARGER VEHICLES.
UM, MY RING CAMERA GOES OFF EVERY TIME WHEN GOES DOWN, SO I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES THEY GO UP AND DOWN OUR STREET.
UM, SO I DO HAVE THAT CONCERN OF THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES UP AND DOWN.
I JUST WANT IT TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT.
UM, THINGS TAKEN CARE OF, NEIGHBORS, TAKEN CARE OF STREETS, PUT IN MINDFUL SPACES.
UM, AND THEN I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.
UM, THE SIZE OF THE HOMES, UM, HE WAS SAYING APPROXIMATELY 2,600 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A NICE SIZE HOME.
UM, I LIKED THE PRICE POINT PERSONALLY, UH, THAT APPEALS TO ME.
UM, I'M WONDERING WHAT THE RANGE IS APPROXIMATELY.
IF THE AVERAGE IS 2,600, HOW SMALL OF A HOME MIGHT BE BUILT DOWN IN THAT SPACE OR HOW LARGE OF A HOME MIGHT BE BUILT.
JUST KIND OF LOOKING FOR A RANGE THERE.
ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I AM AT GROUND 0 13 32 RIO GRANDE DRIVE.
SO MY KIDS GO OUT AND FEED THE COWS, FEED THE LLAMAS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, I AM ALSO UNDIVIDED, UH, UNDIVIDED UN UNDECIDED ABOUT THERE'S GONNA BE PROGRESS.
THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE IN LIFE.
UM, WOULD I PREFER TO KEEP IT HOW IT IS? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, I LIVE, I GOT MY OWN RANCH AND I DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THAT, RIGHT? I DON'T GET THE TAX, TAX, UH, DEDUCTION FROM THAT EITHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE WATER OF COURSE IS A BIG DEAL.
I LIVE RIGHT THERE WHERE IT COLLECTS, IT GETS STOPPED UP EVERY TIME.
AND IF YOU DO IT WRONG, WELL SOMEONE WILL SUE YOU OVER IT.
I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE THIS AND I'M SURE THINGS HAVE GONE WRONG WITH DEVELOPMENT BEFORE.
I'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE I'VE LEFT, UH, LIVED BEFORE WHERE SOMEBODY PUT UP A, A, A RETENTION WALL AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS, SO THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT KIND OF THE THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME, WHICH KIND OF SEEMS RIDICULOUS, UH, MAYBE IT'S NOT.
I IT IS JUST THE, IS IS THE WALL THERE, UM, I KNOW SOMEONE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT AND NOT TO GO OVER THE SAME GROUND, BUT, BUT THIS ISN'T ON, IT'S A LITTLE, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS.
AND SO I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA GET TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE HOW IT LOOKS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, YOU TALK ABOUT IT BEING PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I THINK, UH, IF YOU WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB, DO A GOOD JOB BY MAKING A NICE BRICK WALL IS, IS A MUCH NICER WALL THAN, THAN, YOU KNOW, WOODEN FENCES THAT FALL DOWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT'S BETTER, BUT BLENDING IT IN SO IT'S WELCOMING WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I LIKE THE PRICE POINT TOO.
AND I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST FROM, FOR MY BENEFIT, IT'S HAVING NICER HOUSES THERE HELPS ME OUT BECAUSE WHEN I SELL THAT HOUSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS.
UM, BUT I WOULD, I WOULDN'T LIKE IT IF IT'S ALL LIKE, WELL, THERE'S ALL OF THEM AND THEN HERE'S US AND HERE'S THEIR TRAFFIC.
OH, AND HERE'S THEIR EXTRA WATER TOO.
SO I GUESS ALL OF THAT IS KIND OF AT STAKE, RIGHT? AND I KNOW WE'VE ALL SAID ALL THIS AND I, I CAME DOWN HERE.
MY WIFE DIDN'T COME, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE THIS IDEA AT ALL.
BUT I DO LIKE THE ACCESS POINTS.
I LIKE THE ACCESS POINTS, THE TREE NATURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO LIVES UP THE STREET A LITTLE WAYS.
AND THEIR FENCE, THEY TOOK THEIR FENCE OFF THE BACK AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THEIR YARD.
THAT'S PART OF, I I AM, I'M NOT, I'M, I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY I DON'T KNOW THEIR NAMES RIGHT.
AND I REALLY SHOULD AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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UM, BUT THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THEY DID THAT.SO PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH THE YARD, THEY WAVE HIGH TO US ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? SO THE ME THE, THE BRICK BOUNDARY THERE, IF IT'S REALLY KIND OF LIKE, HEY, THIS IS US AND Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND STAY OUT THERE AND, AND THEN THERE'S ALL THIS ADDED TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ON TOP OF THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE.
Y'ALL GONNA END UP HAVING A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE OUTTA THAT.
ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE, UH, COME UP THROUGH THE PODIUM.
I LIVE AT 1236 SOUTH TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
OUR HOUSE SITS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF BRAZOS AND TIMBERLINE.
I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS AND I TOO WILL ALSO FIGHT IT.
UM, I DON'T THINK, AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF, UH, THE TRAFFIC FLOW STUDY WILL CONSIDER HUMAN BEHAVIOR AS WELL.
UH, HOW HUMAN BEHAVIOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TURN LEFT AND RIGHT, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT VERNON CASTLE, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT TRINITY DRIVE.
RIO GRANDE AND TIMBERLINE WILL BE HEAVILY HIT WITH TRAFFIC.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN THE WORLD I CAN ENVISION AT LEAST A MINIMUM 400 CARS COMING OUT OF THREE ENTRANCES.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE BACK ENTRANCE DUE TO TRINITY UH, UH, TRINITY TRAIL.
SO TRAFFIC IS GOING TO AFFECT TIMBERLINE DRIVE AND RIO GRANDE VERY HEAVILY RIGHT NOW.
YOU HAVE BUSES THAT STOP TO PICK UP KIDS THERE ON THE CORNER.
AND WE DO HAVE SPEEDERS AS WELL.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDERS.
OUR, UH, SENSE OF PRIVACY WILL BE GONE.
UH, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING.
WE ARE RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF WHERE WE CATCH ANY OF THE WATER FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY HUSBAND WILL SPEAK TO THIS IN IN JUST A MINUTE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE SEWAGE BACK UP.
UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE REALLY CONVINCED ABOUT THE FLOODING AND THE SEWAGE, UH, SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A BIGGIE.
UH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE FLOOD AREA.
THERE'S A SEWAGE SITUATION ON TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
WE FILTER IN FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, UH, OTHER AREAS ARE FILTERING IN RIGHT ON TIMBERLINE DRIVE.
UM, YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THOSE LINES OF TIMBERLINE DRIVE, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF PRESSURE.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO I'M CONCERNED VERY MUCH ABOUT THE FLOODING, UH, THE ROADWAY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WALKERS, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WALK THEIR DOGS, THE CHILDREN ON THEIR BIKES.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEIGHBORHOOD ON THEIR SIDEWALKS? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS.
WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS OVER THERE.
WHERE ARE THESE KIDS SUPPOSED TO RIDE THEIR BIKES? WHERE ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO WALK? THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE WON'T BE.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S VARIOUS TIMES THE DAY, DAY.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD 400 PLUS NEW CARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S JUST, AND YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, THEY'RE ALL GONNA GO DOWN VERNON CASTLE OR THEY'RE ALL GONNA GO DOWN TRINITY.
THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GOING DOWN TIMBERLINE DRIVE A WIDE BIG ROAD DOWN RIO GRANDE.
THEN WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF WIND SCOTT ROAD.
WE'RE ALREADY CATCHING THREE 70 SEVENS TRAFFIC.
NOW WE HAVE THREE 70 SEVENS TRAFFIC COMING DOWN.
WINCO, NOW YOU'VE GOT 400 PLUS NEW CARS COMING UP TO WINCO.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A BIG, A BIG MESS.
AND AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL GOES, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FORT WORTH, ISD SCHOOL, THE, THE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING, THOSE STREETS AROUND BENBROOK, UH, ELEMENTARY FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS WHERE THESE KIDS WILL GO.
I MEAN, WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNGER AND WE LIVED OVER IN THAT AREA AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE THEN.
IT'S A BIGGER NIGHTMARE NOW, AND IT WILL BE A HUMONGOUS NIGHTMARE WITH A BUNCH OF NEW CARS AND A BUNCH OF NEW KIDS THERE.
SO, AND IT'S JUST NOT EVEN, THAT'S NOT SAFE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SO I LIVE AT 1236 SOUTH TIMBERLINE ON BRAZOS AND SOUTH TIMBERLINE.
SO A LOT OF THIS, AND I GET THE PROGRESS AND WHAT HAPPENS THERE, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THIS FLOODING ISSUE BECAUSE YOU'RE ELEVATING TWO FEET ABOVE.
I KNOW YOU GOTTA PULL THE DIRT OUT.
AND THESE, THESE GREEN SPACES, THEY'RE JUST FLOOD SPACES.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT CREATING PARKS FOR US, YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO PULL ENOUGH DIRT OUT OF THERE TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF THE HOME SO YOU CAN BUILD THEM.
SO ALL THAT CONCRETE WATER RUNS SOMEWHERE.
SO THAT MAIN CHANNEL THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE BACKFLOW AS THE RIVER RISES, WHICH IT DOES, THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THAT WATER TO RUN AS YOU BUILD THESE HOMES TWO FEET HIGHER THAN TRINITY, IT STAYS TODAY.
IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE, FOLKS, THAT WATER'S COMING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW,
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YOU CAN TELL ME ALL DAY LONG, YOU'VE GOT A STUDY THAT SHOWS THIS AND THAT.NOBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA RAIN.
AND WHEN THAT WATER DOES FILL UP, MAYBE IT WOULD FLOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY, THEN MAYBE IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
BUT THE REAL ISSUE I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THIS SEWAGE PROBLEM.
THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR CITY OF BENBROOK.
SO I, I SPENT DAVID SMITH, I SPENT AN HOUR WITH HIM YESTERDAY.
I WENT OVER ALL THE MAPS AND IT WAS JUST MIND BOGGLING TO ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE HAD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
WE DO NOT ALL OF FORT WORTH WATER, 2 MILLION PLUS HOMES FUNNEL TO ONE TREATMENT FACILITY IN ARLINGTON.
GUESS WHERE ALL OF THIS BUILDING A THOUSAND HOMES SOUTH OF HERE, ALL OF THAT SEWAGE, IT COMES DOWN.
GUESS WHERE RIO GRANDE, ALL OF THAT IS COMING DOWN RIO GRANDE.
AND WHY DO WE FLOOD AND WHY DOES THIS? AND SO THE PIPES ARE OLD, THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.
IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO CITY OF FORT WORTH HAS THEIR OWN ISSUE ACROSS THE RIVER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
APPARENTLY THERE WAS ONE THERE WAY BACK IN THE DAY, RIGHT AT THE RIVER.
SO NOW THERE'S A WATER FLOW VALVE THING.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THE CITY OF FORT WORTH BACKS UP, NOT BENBROOK.
THEY HAVE NO WAY TO FIX THAT ISSUE.
THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN FIX IT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A MARY'S CREEK WATER FACILITY WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THAT IS TWO TO THREE YEARS OUT, EVEN IF IT GETS THE PERMITS TWO TO THREE YEARS.
AND NOW WE GOT 400 MORE HOMES COMING IN.
SO THE CONDITION IS WE GONNA TALK TO THE PIPE.
IT CAN HANDLE THE WATER FLOW OF THESE EXISTING HOMES THAT WERE PLATTED.
THE ISSUE IS WHEN IT RAINS, WHEN IT RAINS FOR TWO DAYS, IF YOU LIVE ON THAT STREET, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? MANHOLE COVERS BLOW UP AND THAT FOLKS, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, THAT IS A MIXTURE OF RAINWATER THAT'S SEEPING INTO THE PIPES AND RAW SEWAGE.
EVERYBODY THINKS THAT'S DRAINAGE WATER.
AND THAT SEWAGE NOW IS BEING FLOWED WITH 600 PLUS NEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT SOUTH OF HERE, IS FLOWING ALL THE WAY DOWN TIMBERLINE, RIGHT UP THAT MANHOLE.
AND IF THOSE MAN, AND ANOTHER THING I'VE DISCOVERED, YOU MENTIONED IN A FLOOD ZONE, GUESS WHAT MANHOLES ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ON 'EM LOCKS.
NOW, IF THOSE MANHOLE WERE LOCKED, WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT SEWAGE IS GOING? IT'S GOING INTO OUR HOMES BECAUSE IT CAN'T COME OUT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE SAID, PLEASE DON'T LOCK THOSE BECAUSE MY HOME WILL BE A WASTE MANAGEMENT FACTORY.
YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND THAT IS NOT GONNA BE RESOLVED ANYTIME SOON.
SO THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY, I KNOW IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLATTING.
I GET THAT THAT'S A NOT A ZONING ISSUE, BUT THE CITY NEEDS TO CONSIDER OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT GROWTH.
WE WEREN'T READY FOR THE GROWTH SOUTH OF HERE.
AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT EVERYBODY.
SO NOW YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING UP HAS THREE LATERAL LINES, 18 INCH, IS IT 18, THREE LATERAL SEWAGE LINES RUNNING DIRECTLY INTO THE STOPPAGE.
THAT'S WHERE THE LINE, EVERYTHING IS BLOWN UP.
OR MAYBE THEY CAN, MAYBE THEY COULD PUT A WHOLE NEW LINE IN, BUT THE CITY OF FORTH WORTH IS STILL BACKED UP.
THERE'S NO QUICK FIX FOR THIS, WHICH THERE SHOULD BE NO NEW NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL THAT'S FIXED, THEN I'M ALL FOR IT.
FIX THE FLOODING, FIX THAT SEWAGE PROBLEM AND WE'RE GOOD.
BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR A CITY TO DEVELOP AN AREA KNOWING, YOU KNOW, THEY, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT FLOODS THE CITY, WATER DEPARTMENT KNOWS IT.
AND I JUST TALKED TO DAVID YESTERDAY AND THEY ONLY HAD, WELL, THE PIPE CAN HANDLE IT.
IF YOU DO THE ENGINEERING MEASUREMENTS, NO PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THE PIPES ARE SO OLD, THERE'S SO MUCH WATER IN THE PIPES AND THE CITY OF FORT WORTH BACKS UP.
I MEAN, SO IT IS JUST NONSENSE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS, ALLOW A DEVELOPMENT WITH SEWAGE BACK UP AND THERE IS NO PLAN TO FIX IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED IN, GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 1332 BRAZO, ALMOST ON THE CORNER OF BRAZOS AND TIMBERLINE.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BEEN HEARING ABOUT FLOOD ZONES, SO I WON'T GO IN TO THAT VERY MUCH.
BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT ONCE THE NEW ADDITION GOES IN, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE RETAINING PONDS AS WELL AS THE CHANNEL WOULD HELP, UM, MAYBE PROTECT OUR HOUSING.
BUT IF, AS MR. SANDLIN SAID THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE RETAINING
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PONDS FULL SO THEY LOOK NICE, THAT REALLY IS NOT GONNA HAVE ANY BEARING ON OUR POSSIBLE FLOODING.NOW THE CHANNEL ON THE OTHER HAND, I CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL PERHAPS, BUT, UM, I AM, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING PROBLEM.
I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE, UH, IT'S REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED FULLY.
AND UH, I'D LIKE FOR, UH, YOUR COMMISSION TO REALLY STUDY THIS BEFORE ANYTHING IS APPROVED.
I KNOW AS LONG AS THEY DO MEET STATE REQUIREMENTS, YOU UH, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN'T GO AGAINST TEXAS LAW.
JUST, UH, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE FLOODING ISSUE DOES NOT GET WORSE.
ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YES, MY NAME IS DENNIS LINDGREN.
I LIVE AT 1605 TIMBER CREEK ROAD.
I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF BENBROOK SINCE 1977.
UM, I ORIGINALLY SAW THIS AREA BEING PLATTED BACK THEN WHEN IT WAS PART OF GREENBRIAR AND, AND, UH, IT'S NICE.
MY WIFE LIKES THE FACT THAT IT'S A, UH, KINDA LIKE A PASTURE WITH THE COWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE ONE THING THAT, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD HERE TONIGHT IS THAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE RELATIVE TO TIMBERLINE DUMPS OUT ON TIMBER CREEK AND I LIVE ON TIMBER CREEK AND DURING THE 40 PLUS YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE HAD TWO MAJOR ACCIDENTS IN MY FRONT YARD ON A VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED IN FRONT OF MY YARD BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT TURNS OFF TIMBERLINE OR GOING FARTHER ON DOWN TO SHADY RIVER OAKS, UH, COMING INTO BENBROOK.
SO I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S, UH, SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TIMBERLINE OR TIMBER CREEK ALSO BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY STREET THAT HAS A STREETLIGHT OUT ONTO WINCOTT.
AND DURING PEAK TRAFFIC TIME THAT TRAFFIC COMES DOWN TIMBERLINE FROM WHEREVER AND GOES OUT, UH, TIMBER CREEK.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT THERE.
'CAUSE UH, I ONLY, I DON'T WANT ANOTHER ACCIDENT, UH, ON MY VEHICLE BECAUSE I PARK IT OUT IN THE STREET AND ON TIMBER, UH, CREEK IS A WIDE STREET TOO.
AND, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THE VERNON CASTLE 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE ATTEMPT TO TRY AND PASS ME GOING DOWN VERNON CASTLE TO GET TO RIO GRANDE.
YOU, UH, WAS IT MR. LINDWORTH? LIN? L-I-N-D-G-R-O-N.
UH, ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HELLO? CHRISTINA WEST 1 1 6 1 SNOWBIRD COURT.
SO I HAVE SOME SWAG FROM THE CITY OF BENBROOK AND IT SAYS SMALL TOWN, BIG BACKYARD.
SO I'M REALLY SAD THAT WE'RE LOSING OUR BIG BACKYARD, WHICH IS WHERE WE ALL TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO FEED THE COWS AND, AND THE DONKEY IF HE'S STILL THERE, SOMETIMES HE IS THERE, SOMETIMES HE'S NOT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, I ALSO WAS REALLY SURPRISED THAT IF WE WANNA GET SOME MITIGATION MEASURES FOR TRAFFIC OR IF WE WANNA GET SPEED BUMPS THAT UM, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT OURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THE HOA HAS TO HAVE 75% APPROVAL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF MR. SANDLIN WOULD BE OPEN TO MEETING, UM, WITH HOA PEOPLE.
UM, AND PERHAPS, UM, MAYBE MR. SAND COULD COME UP WITH THE FUNDS TO HELP US WITH THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT IS A CONCERN.
UM, I LIVE RIGHT OFF VERNON CASTLE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND I JUST HATE TO THINK WHAT ONE CAR COULD DO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, WE TALK ABOUT AVERAGE TRAFFIC, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT JUST TAKES ONE BAD PERSON TO HAVE SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAPPEN.
SO I DON'T KNOW, MAY, MAYBE MR. SANDLIN, YOU COULD PONY UP SOME FUNDS TO HELP US.
ANYONE ELSE? WE'RE GONNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE TONIGHT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SCOTT CAMPBELL, 1416 VERNON CASTLE AVENUE.
AND, UM, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE IT SHORT AND SIMPLE.
IT'S THE SAME ORDEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT.
I HAVE TWO GIRLS, ONE IN SIX PEOPLE DO, AND YOU COULD SHOW ME ALL THE REPORTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO, SIR.
BUT PEOPLE FLY DOWN THOSE STREETS, MY STREET AND I'M SURE YOUR STREETS TOO.
I WALK 'EM WITH MY GIRLS ALL THE TIME.
UH, MY FATHER-IN-LAW, MOTHER-IN-LAW LIVE ON TRINITY AND RIO GRANDE.
SO THE THOUGHT OF MORE PEOPLE COMING IN IS GONNA HAPPEN.
WE ALL KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT.
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ABOUT, UM, POSSIBLY HELPING FUND SOME SORT OF SPEED UP SITUATION.'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY OTHER SCENARIO OR SITUATION.
AND ONE THING I GUESS WE ALL NEED TO CONSIDER, I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER IS NOT MANY OTHER STREETS ARE YOU GOING TO KIND OF TAKE A PEEK DOWN TO COME SO THAT IN INEVITABLY YOU'RE GONNA BE SPEEDING OR YOU'RE GONNA BE FORCED TO TRY TO HIT YOUR BRAKE, TO COME DOWN THESE STREETS.
WHETHER IT BE RIO GRANDE, WHETHER IT BE VERNON CASTLE, WHETHER IT BE TIMBER, ALL OF THEM.
ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE KIND OF ON A DOWNWARD SLOPE TO GET TO THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE NOT REALLY WATCHING YOUR SPEED, YOU FRICTION IS GONNA TAKE YOU DOWN.
YOU'RE GONNA BE SPEEDING MORE.
SO, AND IT, WE ALREADY SEE IT, AND GOD FORBID MY 5-YEAR-OLD GETS 10 FEET AWAY FROM ME AND I HAVE TO WATCH A CAR.
IT, IT JUST PLEASE WATCH THE TRAFFIC AND DO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO HELP US WITH THAT IS ALL I CAN ASK.
IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLOT AND I'M SURE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS.
UM, HELP US WITH THE TRAFFIC IS IS ALL WE CAN ASK FOR.
ANYONE ELSE? OH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? SURE.
FIRST NAME KATE, 1828 BRIAR RUN.
I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY, ALMOST EVERYBODY HERE HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON TRAFFIC, MEANING CARS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WALKABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO SIDEWALK ON, UM, TIMBERLINE.
SO RIGHT NOW THE ROAD IS NICE AND WIDE, SO WHENEVER YOU'RE WALKING YOUR DOG'S, CATS, UH, RIDING WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR JUST TAKING A WALK AFTER WORK AFTER WORK, YOU CAN JUST STEP ONTO THAT GREEN AREA WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HUGE WALL AND NO SIDEWALK TO ESCAPE.
I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT IT'S COMPLETELY GONNA TAKE AWAY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL AND WE WOULD JUST BE FORCED TO USE CARS EVEN MORE AND WE WOULD JUST ALL BE EVEN MORE LOCKED UP IN OUR HOUSES.
ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M AT 1204 TOBY LANE STREET HERE IN BENBROOK.
AND ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS, WHICH I REALIZE CANNOT NECESSARILY BE ANSWERED YET, IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT COMPARE TO VENTANA THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN? BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS WE'RE DESCRIBING HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED THERE.
AND AS WE'VE ALSO HEARD, I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY STOP PROGRESS, BUT PROGRESS AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO ANYONE.
AND EVERYONE'S STREET WILL HAVE TRAFFIC, SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS DESCRIBED.
TOBY LANE TWO HAS CARS THAT YES, I'VE BEEN TOLD THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY SPEEDING, BUT AS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, COLLIDING WITH A FIVE-YEAR-OLD, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING, IF THEY'RE GOING THE SPEED LIMIT OR NOT, AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL IT SOUNDS LIKE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY THAT CAN BOTH COMBINE THE PROGRESS THAT THE CITY DESIRES AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE CHOOSE AND WANT TO EXPERIENCE BY LIVING IN BENBROOK.
BY YOUR SILENCE, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THERE'S NO MORE INTEREST AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE, UH, THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, AND MAYBE WITH THE HELP OF STAFF, ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
UM, MR. LACROIX, UH, IF YOU MAY PLEASE, WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT TONIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO HIT THE HIGH POINTS.
THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL, I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS, UM, AS MANY I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN HERE.
I THINK FROM AN ORDER, THE, THE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
UH, WATER'S AVAILABLE, DOMESTIC WATER'S AVAILABLE ON THE STREET.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME EXISTING, UM, OVERFLOWS IN THE SEWER THERE WANTED TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH, WITH BWA.
UM, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE PIPE
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IN NORMAL FLOW SCENARIO HAS ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.WHAT'S OCCURRING AT THAT LOCATION IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS INI INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, UM, WHICH IS CAUSED BY OLD LEAKY PIPES.
SOMETIMES FOLKS ILLEGALLY CONNECT TO THE SEWER SYSTEM AND DURING WET WEATHER CON UH, CONDITIONS, IT DOES OVERFLOW.
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS IF, IF WE'RE THERE, IF YOU'RE THERE OR IF ANYBODY ELSE IS CONNECTED TO IT.
I'M SORRY, I JUST SPENT AN HOUR OF A DAY.
I I I HATE THAT'S YEAH, PLEASE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE MEETING IS CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC.
I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT IF WE CAN LET THE GENTLEMAN PLEASE GIVE HIS SIDE.
SO LIKE, UH, THE, THE EXISTING PIPES DO HAVE CAPACITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S THE WET WEATHER CONDITIONS.
UM, REGARDLESS IF WE CONNECT TO IT OR NOT, THE OVERFLOWS GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH BWA THAT THEY HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN PLACE TO IMPROVE THAT SEWER LINE AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN AN INTERCEPTOR INSTALLED UPSTREAM OF THE SEWER LINE THAT'S TAKEN OFFLINE ABOUT 250 HOMES.
AND SO IT'LL BE A NET DECREASE OF HOMES ON THAT LINE THAT'S IN TIMBERLINE DRIVE FOR THE SEWER, UM, TRAFFIC COUNTS.
I'VE, I'VE LOOKED BACK THROUGH OUR ANALYSIS OF, AS THE CITY ENGINEER MENTIONED EARLIER AT, DURING THE PEAK HOUR, WE'RE AT ABOUT 225 TO 240 ADDITIONAL TRIPS.
AND I JUST WANNA BREAK THAT DOWN.
REALLY WHAT THAT IS IS THAT'S THREE TO FOUR CARS PER MINUTE.
IN ADDITION, THAT'S DIVIDED BETWEEN THREE ENTRYWAYS ON THE TIMBERLINE DRIVE AND THEN MULTIPLE EXITS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON VERNON CASTLE.
UM, TIMBERLINE DRIVE THROUGH RIO GRANDE, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER EXIT BACK TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST THERE.
AS, AS FAR AS THE, THE WALL IS CONCERNED, THAT'S A CITY REQUIREMENT FOR ALL NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO COME IN.
UM, THOSE WALLS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE SIDE YARDS OF THE HOUSES IS OUR INTENT TO LEAVE OPEN.
SO THESE TRAIL CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS ALONG TIMBERLINE DRIVE IS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THOSE TRAIL CONNECTIONS WILL OPEN THAT SPACE UP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT THROUGH PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
THROUGH PEOPLE'S FENCES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OVERGROWN GRASS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TRAIL CONNECTIONS TO THE TRINITY TRAIL SYSTEM.
UM, I I THINK WE COVERED THAT EARLIER.
THERE WILL NOT BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PULL ANYONE'S HOUSE OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT ADDING ANYONE'S HOUSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CAN BE TRICKY SOMETIMES, BUT WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE PROPER AUTHORITIES, BOTH CITY OF BENBROOK, CITY OF FORT WORTH AND FEMA.
UM, ALL THOSE EYES WILL BE ON IT MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING OUR JOB CORRECTLY, NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTING ANYONE.
I THINK THAT ABOUT COVERS MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAD? WELL, LET ME, LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF 'EM.
UM, AND STAFF MIGHT HELP ME ON SOME OF THESE AS WELL.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, UH, ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT PLEASE? YES.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AS PART OF TCE KEY REQUIREMENTS.
TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AS WELL AS CITY OF BENBROOK REQUIREMENTS WILL BE INSTALLING EROSION CONTROL DEVICES.
THAT INCLUDES SILT FENCE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN AROUND BLACK FENCE ABOUT TWO FEET TALL.
THAT, UM, DOESN'T ALLOW THE, THE SILT AND SEDIMENT TO LEAVE OUR SITE AS TRUCKS COMING AND OUT.
THEY'LL BE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE KIND OF LARGE BOULDERS.
WHAT'S THAT MEANT TO DO IS AS THE TRUCK DRIVES IN AND OUT, KIND OF SHAKE IT OFF AND GET THAT DIRT AND S IT OFF.
AND OF COURSE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR AT THAT TIME WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THE STREETS CLEAN.
SO OFTENTIMES THEY'LL GO IN AND AND SWEEP THOSE.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WASH IT DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THEY ACTUALLY SWEEP IT UP AND, AND PICK THAT UP AND MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON SITE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'LL BE WHAT'S KNOWN AS, UH, INLET PROTECTION.
SO YOU'VE SEEN GRIDS ON TOP OF THESE INLETS PREVENTING THE SOIL FROM GETTING INTO THAT RIVER SYSTEM AS WELL.
ANOTHER THING ALSO, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPER BE AMENABLE TO, UH, MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN AND AROUND THE AREA PERTAINING TO THIS, UH, SPEED BUMP THING SITUATION.
AND I REALIZE THERE'S A PROCESS, UM, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF, UH, YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.
UM, WE ALWAYS WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WANT TO TRY TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND, AND, UH, COME UP WITH SOME GOOD, UH, RESOLUTIONS.
WHAT A WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC CITY TO COME BACK AND KIND OF TELL US WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT'S EXISTING.
UH, I CAN'T FIX CURRENT SPEEDERS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT WITH YOU GUYS AND, UH, TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT FOR SURE.
UM, AND IF I MAY JUST INTERJECT, UH, JUST FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, UH, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THAT SITUATION WHERE I WAS WANTING TO PUSH THIS IDEA AS A,
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A, UH, RESIDENT OF MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.AND, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST SPEED BUMPS 'CAUSE THEY SAY THAT IT'S GONNA MESS UP THEIR VEHICLES.
THERE'S GONNA BE MORE REPAIRS AND WHATNOT.
UH, AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO EVEN TRY TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, 75% PEOPLE TO, TO AGREE TO EVEN HAVE THAT.
THEY JUST, SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST AGAINST IT.
UH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE FOREIGN, SOME THAT ARE AGAINST IT.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT THAT.
UM, ALSO SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ABOUT THE, UH, SIZE OF HOMES, UH, THE RANGE, UH, UH, YEAH, OUR PLAN, UH, PROBABLY START ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET AND GO UP TO ABOUT 34, 3500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AGAIN, WITH THAT AVERAGE BEING AROUND 2026, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME WITH THIS PRICE POINT.
I LEMME SEE WHAT ELSE I GOT HERE.
AND JUST FOR THE BENEFIT, I THINK SOME OF THEM, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE BRICK, I'M SORRY, THE, THE FENCING, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A MASONRY AND YOU KNOW, MY ORIGINAL VISION WAS NOT TO PUT A BIG BRICK WALL OR OR FENCE UP AROUND THE SUBDIVISION.
IT WAS TRY TO MAKE IT PART OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, HAVE SPLIT RAIL OR SOME KIND OF, UH, AN OPEN FENCING WHERE THE OPEN SPACE IS MAYBE DO SOME MASONRY NICE, UH, ENTRYWAYS WITH NICE LANDSCAPING, UH, SIDEWALKS.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIDEWALKS GOING ALL THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONNECT INTO THE TRINITY, UH, TRAIL SYSTEM.
AND WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS ALL AROUND.
SO I THINK I WAS TRYING, MY VISION WAS TRYING TO BLEND IT.
SO I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF IF WE CAN MAYBE GET AWAY WITH SOME OF THE MASONRY ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BOULEVARD.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I, I ENVISIONED IT.
IS THERE GONNA BE A SIDEWALK ALONGSIDE THE FENCING AREA? WHERE ON TIMBERLINE OUTSIDE TIMBER? YEAH.
IS THERE A YEAH, THERE, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY THERE, BUT THERE'LL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'LL BE ADDING SOME SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA.
AND JUST TO KIND OF, AND I THINK YOU ALL MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE THAT POINT.
'CAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY, UM, THE RESIDENTS AND THAT IS THE, THE IDEA OF THE FLOODING ISSUE THAT I, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A COUPLE OF CHANNELS, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF A BUMPY CHANNEL AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FLOWING TOWARD THE RIVER NECESSARILY.
SO IS THE GRADING GONNA BE DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE A SMOOTHER FLOW TOWARD THE, THE THE CLA FORK AREA? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON OUR, ON OUR PROPERTY? YES.
EVERYTHING WILL BE IN GRASS AND IT'D BE NICE AND GOOD.
WELL, THERE'LL BE A, THE WALKING TRAIL IS GONNA BE THAT, THAT LEADS FROM TIMBERLINE TO, TO THE TRAILS.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A SIDEWALK ALONG THOSE GREEN PASTURE.
THERE'LL BE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF EVERY HOUSE.
THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK, YES.
THAT WILL CONNECT IT ALL THE WAY.
ON THE, UH, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THEY HAD ALSO WAS THE, UM, THE POND.
THE POND RETAINING THE WATER, LEAVING IT AS SUCH TO KIND OF CREATE A, A WATER POND.
UH, AND THERE IS SOME, UH, I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I THINK THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL FEATURE, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN THOUGH, UH, I THINK IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF PREVENTING SOME OF THE FLOODING WHEN RAINS COME.
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH FLOW LEVELS.
AND JOE, JOE, JOE CAN TAKE THAT ONE.
UM, YEAH, THE, THE RETENTION COMPONENT, SO THE, THE STANDING WATER LEVEL WILL BE BELOW THE, THE FLOW LINE OF THAT PIPE, UM, AND ESSENTIALLY NOT CREATING ANY, ANY BACK WATER INTO THE PIPE.
SO ANY WATER THAT COMES INTO THAT POND WILL, WILL RAISE THE ELEVATION IN THAT POND AND THEN IMMEDIATELY FLOW OUT THROUGH A LARGER SIZE PIPE.
SO WE'RE NOT DETAINING OR, OR HARMING THE WATER SURFACE IN THAT, IN THE STORM DRAIN THAT'S COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THE, THE RETENTION LEVEL WILL BE BELOW THE FLOW LINE OF THE PIPE.
ANY ADDITIONAL WATER WILL FLOW IN AND IMMEDIATELY FLOW OUT.
A GENTLEMAN HAD ASKED THE, IF THERE'S ANY, IF, IF THERE IS OR WILL BE ANY, ANY, UM, TRAFFIC COUNT ON THE AREA ON TIMBERLINE TRAFFIC GOING INTO TIMBER CREEK.
THE CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY IS, IS STUDYING ALL THE ADJACENT INTERSECTIONS, AND WE WILL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS ON THAT ONCE IT'S BEEN PERFORMED.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT, UH, IF CITY STAFF HAS ANYTHING THAT, UH, I MAY HAVE MISSED, I WOULD, UH, CONSIDER, UH, I, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU'VE TOUCHED ON, ON THE MAJOR POINTS.
THERE'S PROBABLY ONE ITEM I WANTED TO PROBABLY SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ON.
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I BELIEVE IT WAS MS. DANIELS WHO WAS ASKING ABOUT, UH, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE, ALL THE, THE ISSUES WERE LOOKED AT, UH, BEFORE ANY APPROVALS.UM, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD, UH, WHAT THE APPROVAL REQUEST IS FOR TONIGHT.
TONIGHT'S APPROVAL REQUEST DOESN'T GET THEM A PERMIT, IT DOESN'T GET THEM TO GO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION.
UM, ALL IT IS, IS IT GETS 'EM PAST THAT FIRST PRE PRELIMINARY LOOK.
UH, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL OTHER STUDIES AFTER THIS AND SEVERAL OTHER REVIEWS.
UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL A WAYS FROM, FROM ANY DIRT MOVING.
UH, SO I JUST, I AT LEAST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD.
SO ANY, ANY APPROVAL THAT, UH, COULD HAPPEN TONIGHT DOES NOT EQUATE TO DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
UH, THERE, THERE'S STILL MORE REVIEWS TO, TO, TO GO THROUGH.
UM, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION, UH, WITH DAVID SMITH AS WELL FROM THE, FROM BWA, UM, IF ANYBODY ISN'T AWARE, YES.
UM, WE HAVE OUR, WE HAVE THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY, WHO IS A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM THE CITY.
UH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE CREATED THEM.
UH, SO THEY, THEY BASICALLY ARE A, A, UH, UH, THEIR OWN QUASI GOVERNMENT.
UM, THEY HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER WATER AND SEWER APPROVALS.
UH, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THEIR PROCESS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SAY IN OUR PROCESS, BUT WE DO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT, THAT, THAT COME IN AND MEET, UH, REGULATIONS.
UM, SO THIS UN UNTIL THEY GET BWA APPROVAL, OUR CIVIL PLANS, THE, THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WON'T BE APPROVED UNTIL THEY'RE DONE WITH, WITH THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY PROCESS.
UM, ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO, THE, THE TWO MAIN POINTS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.
THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, UH, SOMEBODY MENTIONED AND I, AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UH, BUT THIS PERSON WANTED TO COMPARE THE, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, HAD IN VENTANA VERSUS HOW IT'S GONNA COMPARE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I, I GUESS I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE EXACT ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING IN VENTANA.
I'M NOT AWARE OF, OF ANY ISSUES.
AND, AND I, I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO THERE.
WHAT I MEANT WAS NOT INITIALLY THAT ISSUES, BUT AS YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER PRESENTATION, MAY I ASK, MAY I ASK YOU IF YOU COULD AT LEAST, UH, COME TO THE PODIUM NOW, I'M NOT OPENING IT UP TO THE, UH, PUBLIC, BUT I'D LIKE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOU ON THE RECORD SO YOU CAN ADDRESS IT WITH, UH, MR. HOWARD.
YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AGAIN.
SARAH ANDERSON, 1204 TOBY LANE STREET.
WHAT I WAS ASKING IS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE COMPARISON OF THE DENSITY THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE DEVELOPED THERE, AS YOU DESCRIBED, HOW WE CURRENTLY EXIST HERE WITH THE 3.6, ET CETERA.
SO, VENTANA, UH, THEY HAVE A LOT SMALLER LOTS THAN WE DO HERE AT, AT THE CITY OF BENBROOK.
WITHIN OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TYPICALLY FIF OR 70 FEET WIDE LOTS IN VENTANA.
UH, THE, THEY DO HAVE SOME, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
AND TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU'VE GOT A HOUSE THAT WILL TYPICALLY HAVE FIVE FEET BETWEEN THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE AND THE FENCE.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU PUT YOUR LITTLE AIR CONDITIONER UNIT ON THE SIDE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM TO GET AROUND.
UH, IN OUR CITY, UH, WE REQUIRE AT LEAST 15 FEET TOTAL BETWEEN THE TWO SIDE YARDS AS A MINIMUM.
BUT WITH 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS, IF YOU PUT A COMPARABLE HOUSE THAT'S BUILT IN, IN VENTANA ON, ON A 70 FOOT WIDE HOUSE, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE ROOM BETWEEN THE HOMES.
UM, AND IN, IN THE, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, UH, SO DENSITY, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD 'CAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T CLOSE TO, TO THIS PROPERTY.
OTHERWISE, I, I DEFINITELY WOULD'VE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR DENSITY IS, BUT IF I HAD TO GUESS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE OUT, OUT IN THE VENTANA AREA.
UM, WE'RE HERE CONSIDERABLY LOWER WHEN YOU'RE ABOUT THREE AND A HALF.
UH, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THE CITY OF, UH, BENBROOK CITIZENS HAVE DESIRED.
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I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THE WATER AUTHORITY AND SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SEWER PLANS, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS ISSUE THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WITH THIS HUGE PROBLEM WITH THOSE OVERFLOW OF THOSE STORM DRAINS.IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS THAT OURS? SO THERE, IF THERE ARE SEWER ISSUES THAT, THAT ISN'T, I, SINCE WE, WE ARE NOT THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
I HAVE NOT MYSELF, PUT EYES ON ANY WATER AND SEWER PLANS, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I, I DO NOT KNOW.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE KIND OF THE STREET FLOODING, THOSE ARE ALL STORM DRAINS.
THEY MAY HAVE, WE'VE USED THE TERM, THEY MAY HAVE SOME TYPE OF RAW SEWAGE THAT'S GETTING IN THERE, BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING STORM DRAINS FROM THE NORMAL WATER FLOW.
AND IS THAT A CITY THING? I CAN PROBABLY ASK OUR CITY ENGINEER IF YOU PLEASE STRAIGHTEN ME OUT.
THE OVERFLOWS ARE NOT THE STORM DRAINS.
UH, YES, THE STORM DRAINS ARE THE CITIES, BUT WHAT IS OVERFLOWING DOWN THERE ARE THE SANITARY DRAINS.
AND WHOSE ARE THOSE? THAT IS THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
THE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY.
AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, UM, IF THERE'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE SANITARY SEWER, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE SAY OVER THAT, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THE WATER AUTHORITY COULD DENY, OR THEY MAY NOT EVEN HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DENY IF THERE'S JUST A BACKUP PROBLEM ON THE SANITARY SEWER.
I MEAN, DON'T SPEAK TO I DO, I DO NOT.
I KNOW WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS THEY DO REQUIRE ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS YEAH, NORMAL, THE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES CAN SERVE WHATEVER IS BEING PROPOSED.
I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT THEIR REGULATIONS MAY BE WITH THESE INI OVERFLOW ISSUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE BENBROOK.
I WANTED TO KNOW, HAVE YOU, AS THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER TALKED TO BENBROOK WHAT THEY'VE SAID ABOUT THOSE SANITARY SEWERS? WE HAVE.
WE'VE SUBMITTED THE ENGINE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDIES TO THEM.
UM, WE'VE PROVED UP BOTH THEIR MODELING SYSTEM IN, IN OUR CALCULATIONS, PROVE THAT IN NORMAL FLOW SCENARIOS, THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE CAPACITY IN THAT 18 INCH PIPE.
AND KIND OF TO MISS OH, DID YOU FINISH, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I I WAS GONNA SAY, I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING OVERFLOW SCENARIO RIGHT FROM THE, THE STORMWATER GETTING INTO THE SANITARY SEWER LINES.
WHAT HAPPENS THAT SURCHARGES, THAT PIPE, THE PRESSURE COMES OUTTA THE GROUND AND UNFORTUNATELY SPILLS INTO THE STREET.
AND TO MR. CLEM'S POINT ABOUT, I MEAN, MORE
I MEAN, SEEMS ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO.
I UNDERSTAND THE FLOW FROM A NORMAL SETUP'S NOT IMPACTED, BUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE SYSTEM ARE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BE EXACERBATED, WHETHER IT'S YOUR DEVELOPMENT OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS NORTH OF THE STRING.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S
SO I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE HOOK FOR THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING HE MADE THAT STATEMENT AND I'M GONNA MAKE IT FOR HIM.
BUT THAT'S ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO.
THERE'S JUST GONNA BE MORE CRUD IN THE STREET.
WELL, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ONE BENBROOK WATER AUTHORITY IS, IS WORKING THROUGH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT RIGHT NOW TO IMPROVE THIS.
TWO, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THERE'S A SEVERAL EXISTING HOMES ABOUT 250 THAT WERE TAKING OFF OF THIS LINE.
AND IT'S NOT EXACTLY ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO IN THIS SCENARIO.
IT'S ONE PLUS A THOUSAND EQUALS A THOUSAND IN ONE BECAUSE OF THE, THE EXISTING FLOWS THAT ARE IN THERE DURING WET WEATHER CONDITIONS, WE'RE, WE'RE A DROP IN THE HAT DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO WHAT'S GOING THERE.
SO YES, WE ARE ADDING FLOW TO THAT, THAT SYSTEM BY CONNECTING TO IT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO IN THIS SCENARIO.
AND, AND THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION, IT MAY JUST BE A STATEMENT SURE.
BUT IT SEEMS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD COMPLAIN TO ABOUT THAT SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IS ACROSS THE STREET AND NOT IN THIS BUILDING.
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ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT IF I HAVE TO RETRACT IT, I WILL.MR. HOWARD, I, I, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HAD MORE TO ADD.
OH, NO, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, LEFT TO ADD, UM, TO SAY.
I, I GUESS, SORRY, ONE, ONE THING I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DAVID SMITH.
I THINK I, I MENTIONED, I SAID THAT AND I DIDN'T FINISH IT.
UH, AND THE, THE SITUATION AND HOW HE EXPLAINED IT TO ME, UH, WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER EXPLAINED TODAY IN, IN, IN THAT SITUATION.
UH, LET ME ASK YOU, UH, UM, DO YOU KNOW THAT WHETHER OR NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT, UM, IT, WHEN THIS ISSUE IS BEING ENTERTAINED BY THE PEMBROOK WATER AUTHORITY, UM, DO, DO THEY NORMALLY HAVE LIKE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MATTERS LIKE THIS? I KNOW THEIR MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY TREAT IT AS A PUBLIC HEARING THE SAME WAY I CAN FIND OUT.
UM, I CAN SAY THAT, UH, A PLATTING CASE, UH, BY STATE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE CITY OF BENBROOK DECIDED TO DO A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND DECIDED TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR IT TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO KNOWING THAT, MY ASSUMPTION, AGAIN, AND I, I'LL FIND OUT FOR YOU, BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS IT'S PROBABLY NOT A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THEY'RE NOTIFYING NEIGHBORS, BUT THEIR MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I WANTED, UH, THAT INFORMATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.
JUST, UM, THREE POINTS FOR ME.
UM, ONE, I JUST, I WANT SINCERELY THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
MANY OF YOU GUYS ARE NEIGHBORS OF MINE, AND I APPRECIATE SEEING YOU.
AND I, I THINK THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD AND IMPORTANT.
UM, ONE, UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR MR. LACROIX, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THREE TO FOUR TRIPS A MINUTE IS KIND OF THE ESTIMATE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND AT THE END.
WERE YOU SAYING THAT'S, UH, THAT WOULD BE AT EACH ACCESS POINT, OR THAT'S SPREAD OUT AMONG, AMONG THE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS THAT ESTIMATE THAT'S SPREAD OUT BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE THREE? OKAY.
SO THE, THE 199, UH, PROPOSED DWELLING UNITS WILL CREATE APPROXIMATELY 225 OR SO TRIPS PER HOUR.
IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY MINUTES, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THREE ACCESS POINTS.
SO THAT'S ONE CAR PER MINUTE AT EACH ACCESS POINT.
UH, AND THEN IS, I KNOW SIDEWALKS HAS BEEN RAISED A LOT, I HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, I, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
AND I, I HEAR YOU THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS THERE.
IS IT FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK PLANNED ALONG TIMBERLINE? OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT IT, THAT CAN BE, THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THIS POINT? 'CAUSE I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT FEATURE TO TRY AND INCLUDE.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, IF I MAY, UM, AS, AS IT'S ADJACENT TO VACANT LAND, UH, A SIDEWALK WILL BE REQUIRED ON THE, ON THE TIMBERLINE SIDE.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR STREET, RIGHT, THE STREET SECTION, A NORMAL STREET SECTION HAS SIDEWALK STREET SIDEWALK IN THIS CASE, WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING? YES.
A SIDEWALK WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED.
ON THE TIMBERLINE, UH, ON THEIR SIDE.
IT, I, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THAT JUST WASN'T CLEAR TO ME, AND I HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I ECHO ALL THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE FLOOD.
WE CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DON'T.
BUT AS I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO, THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE A CITY REVIEW.
UH, FORT WORTH IS LOOKING AT IT, AND THEN FEMA WILL LOOK AT IT TWO TIMES.
SO I, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT, AND I HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO LOOK AT THE FLOOD ISSUES.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE THAN TO LOOK AT IT ESSENTIALLY FOUR TIMES.
UM, SO I, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
I, IT SEEMS TO ME, I KNOW THAT IT'S A CONCERN, IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE, BUT I THINK, I THINK GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT PROCESS IS FOR THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION? MS. RODRIGUEZ? HAVE YOU GUYS CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY? DO YOU OWN THAT YET?
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NO, I DIDN'T.AND JUST IN CASE FOR THE, THE VIDEOS, UH, THE MR THE, THE, THE APPLICANT SAID THEY DID NOT CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY YET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? MR. CRAVER? UH, JUST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYTHING AND ALL WITH THE SEWAGE, BACKFLOW AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM WHAT WAS EXPLAINED, THE AREA WHERE THAT'S THE CAUSE OF THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE FORT WORTH WIRE, TRWD SIDE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE, WHAT CAUSES THAT TO THEN EFFECTIVELY HIT INTO, UH, THERE ON TIMBERLINE? THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN STATED TONIGHT.
UM, WHETHER THE CITY CAN CONFIRM THAT OR NOT, STUDIES WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
I I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CITY'S PLACE TO, TO CONFIRM THAT THAT IS WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN STATED TONIGHT.
RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING FROM WHAT WAS EXPLAINED AND STATED, UH, JUST WHY I WANTED TO SEE IF I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
ANYONE, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION COMMENTS? SORRY, MR. I, I GUESS I COULD'VE TOLD MR. SANDLIN AFTER, BUT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE G THE, UM, YOUR THOUGHT ON THE, THE, THE FENCING OR THE, THE WALL OR THE LACK OF, UH, I WAS, I, I, I APPRECIATED YOU MAKING THAT COMMENT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, OKAY.
THAT THERE'S GONNA BE MORE OF AN OPEN FEEL THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR STATING THAT.
MR. WALLACE, JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION.
WILL WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE MATTER, LIKE JUST BETWEEN US? IS THAT TECHNICALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO, OR DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION NOW? WELL, I, I THINK, I THINK IT CAN BE EITHER WAY.
AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE A MOTION AND, AND, UH, AND A SECOND AND, UH, DISCUSSION OR PRIOR TO THAT AS WELL.
WELL, UH, SO I'LL, WELL, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, I, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT ARE MORE THAN LEGITIMATE.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE STRUGGLES.
I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK WHEN THE, WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDIES COME IN, IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT FLOW AND BACKUP, BUT CERTAINLY THE ANCILLARY IS YOU'RE JUST GONNA GET MORE THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF AS A, WE THINK SPEEDERS.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST GONNA HAVE AN EFFECT THERE.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR THE PLATING OR EVEN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS THE, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE THE SQUARE PEG TO THE ROUND HOLE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF RELATED.
THEY'RE BOTH BLOCKS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, UNLESS WE CAN GET SOME THINGS TO SLOW IT DOWN, AND MAYBE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES COME BACK AND PUT IN A STOP SIGN, YOU KNOW, UM, AND KIND OF BREAK IT UP.
UM, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO FOR ME IS WHAT OUR, WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WITH REGARD TO THE LAW.
AND UNLESS WE CAN CITE A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE OR SUBJECT MATTER THAT THEY AS PRESENTED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER DISCRETION WITH REGARD TO HOW PRELIMINARY PLATS ARE PRESENTED.
UM, AND IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE LAW.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED POINTED QUESTIONS TO BOTH THE ENGINEERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PEOPLE ON THE RECORD THAT HAVE TO, WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD, AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY'S ENGINEER TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE THERE AND THEY MEET IT.
AND THEN MR. HOWARD AS OUR CITY PLANNER TO CONFIRM THAT THEY'VE CHECKED ALL THEIR BOXES.
SO THAT'S MY NICHOLS WORTH OF THOUGHTS.
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BY YOUR SILENCE? I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE AT THAT CRITICAL POINT AND JUST TO, UH, UH, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE STAND LEGALLY, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION, UH, EITHER TO DENY OR WITH CONDITIONS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CITE THE LEGAL REASONS FOR SUCH, UH, EITHER CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS OR, OR NOT, OR NOT CONFORMING TO THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.UM, SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A, UM, MOTION AT THIS TIME, MR. WALLACE.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUEST NUMBER P DASH TWO TWO DASH ZERO ONE, SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS AS CONTAINED IN THEIR REPORT AND THE ATTACHMENTS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. CRAVER? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE AT THIS TIME.
AND THIS, UM, UH, TERMINATES OUR, UH, MEETING FOR TONIGHT, AND WE REMAIN ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT.
IT'S THOUGH, IT'S, IT MAY NOT BE MUCH AN ITEM I FORGOT.
EXCUSE ME IF I, IF I CAN JUST ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE BE QUIET SO WE CAN FINISH OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A FEW MOMENTS, A FEW TO EXIT.
[VI. COMMISSION MEMBER AND STAFF COMMENTS ]
LET'S, UH, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.ANNOUNCE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF MAY BE MADE FROM FOUR ITEMS TO INCLUDE EXPRESSION OF THANKS.
CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES, OR CITIZENS.
UM, INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES, REMINDERS OF COMMUNITY EVENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS ARISEN AFTER THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA.
NO DISCUSSION OF FORMAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ON THESE ITEMS AT THIS MEETING.
ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF OR COMMISSION? OKAY, NOW, NOW WE'RE ADJOURNED.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RECENT APPOINTMENT.